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Re: Ask HN: What to do with text from old, unarchived, online forums?

#91
Its a shame, Google used to host Usenet groups and the other day I clicked a link of something old that Google was supposed to be hosting, and got literally nothing back.

Dear Google, you could have added ads to those old results to justify keeping them up, but you failed because you're more interested in locking things down than actually building up an open web.

Now there's decades worth of old usenet content probably gone, my understanding is a lot of it was donated by old usenet providers that shut down or just couldnt keep hosting really old but historic texts for whatever reason.

Re: Ask HN: What to do with text from old, unarchived, online forums?

#92
post #83

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https://help.archive.org/help/how-to-upload-files-to-create-... https://github.com/jjjake/internetarchive might be helpful If you have an artifact in digital format already, you can self serve and don't need my help. Patron services at the org can provide guidance if you are unsure of item value, upload mechanics, collections, metadata, etc.

I ran a website where people uploaded game save files along with an screenshot of their game world for a few years. It had maybe 10k+ submissions and was a mildly popular game. I took it offline years ago though. Is this something worth archiving?

Random on-disk game saves is how some MMO server projects have been revived by communities. It could also help someone re-implement the game engine having various copies of a game save. You would be surprised how useful archiving game files can be for someone who really wants to re-build a legacy game.

Re: Ask HN: What to do with text from old, unarchived, online forums?

#93
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You can scan and OCR (adobe) this yourself with not much more effort than boxing and shipping at FedEx Then repost on related public-facing online forums or a free wordpress site or upload to archive.org

I get this answer a lot when I ask similar question but how do we scan it? Taking a Photos of every print out from our Phone? That is 1000s of photos each needing to snap and focus. Not everyone has a scanner, and not every scanner has automated tray feed. And even if they do the quality of their scan are really low by default. I have similar question with Business Cards as well. I have hundreds if not thousands of t…

The only realistic way is to have a scanner with an automated feeder (which aren’t really all that expensive). I invested in a laser color printer years ago and I have not yet had to replace the toner. Otherwise you can also do it at your office or business centers at hotels (I’ve done this a few times and they don’t really care/notice). Worst case scenario would be a fedex location but that can get pricey very quickly since they charge by the sheet.

Re: Ask HN: What to do with text from old, unarchived, online forums?

#95
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Ok, but why print it out instead of saving it locally? (Other than to read it on the go? Did people do that?)

I do wonder about the relative cost of paper to digital storage mediums of the time. It could be that would have something to do with it. Take for example the fact that (testing with a 150kb block of lorem ipsum text) you could easily squeeze the text capacity of a 3.5mm floppy into around 20 pages of physical text. 10 sheets of double-side printed paper and some ink might well have been cheaper than the floppy it wo…

Check your math – the King James Bible in uncompressed plain text UTF-8 is 4.4 MB. A floppy fits waaaay more than 20 printed pages of text.

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/10

Re: Ask HN: What to do with text from old, unarchived, online forums?

#96
post #55

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From your initial comment I assumed a 14 year old to be fair.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I just used to read books before I had mobile data. Never thought of printing out a discussion forum and don't remember anyone else doing so, that's why I was curious.

Sometimes people would post stuff that would be handy to have while away from the computer. In the late 90s, when Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu was taking off, you could find black belts sharing advice on discussion boards (often very detailed). I would print it and take it to practice.

Re: Ask HN: What to do with text from old, unarchived, online forums?

#97

Happy to take them.

This is Jason Scott of the Internet Archive, by the way. (jscott@archive.org). Knowing how HackerNews is, I am sure this comment will end up buried far beneath the thread.

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Re: Ask HN: What to do with text from old, unarchived, online forums?

#98
I sort of regard these commenters as crazy. I never had the habit of printing stuff off so I could read it later. I read it online, or not at all. And by "online" I mean from computer storage on the screen, not necessarily over a modem connection or something.

The fundamental disconnect you guys have is this: in order to print something out, it needs to be stored somewhere first. So you indeed downloaded a text file in order to print it. Surely you saved it somewhere, at least in RAM if not permanent storage. Otherwise the printout wouldn't happen.

The sorts of things that I used the printer for were school reports and papers, and especially Print Shop style banners. It was really fun to run off a larger-than-life "HAPPY BIRTHDAY" sign that was basically professional DTP style with good fonts, graphics and the whole bit.

At school the chief use of the Line Printers was for large-format ASCII art. We'd take some GIFS of rather prurient pin-up shots, or anime or just some interesting subject, and run it through an ASCII art generator, then print out something suitable for covering an entire wall. Sometimes we'd even print out the Pascal code we were working on, so we could mark it up and sort of edit it offline. But that was the exception to prove the rule.

Re: Ask HN: What to do with text from old, unarchived, online forums?

#99
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From your initial comment I assumed a 14 year old to be fair.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I just used to read books before I had mobile data. Never thought of printing out a discussion forum and don't remember anyone else doing so, that's why I was curious.

Damn really?? I have stacks and stacks of discussions from forums and various tutorials I printed off while at school to read later on at home. Everything from bind9 configuration to gun building.. On occasion I still pull some out to review.

Re: Ask HN: What to do with text from old, unarchived, online forums?

#100

I sort of regard these commenters as crazy. I never had the habit of printing stuff off so I could read it later. I read it online, or not at all. And by "online" I mean from computer storage on the screen, not necessarily over a modem connection or something. The fundamental disconnect you guys have is this: in order to print something out, it needs to be stored somewhere first. So you indeed downloaded a text file…

Given the years (91-94), it seems likely these were printed out a long time ago and have sat in filing boxes for nearly 30 years. Looking back it may seem crazy to print so many things out, but screen quality and norms have changed a lot since then!

To this day, many academics still print tons of papers out to read. I'm sure there are other niches where it is still considered normal to print - even though sure, you could argue that an iPad Pro + Pencil is advantageous if for no other reason than physical space.

edit: Could've made my point a bit better. I get where you are coming from. I just mean that at the time, I think more people would find it crazy to stock pile CDs with text files vs printouts

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