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Age verification is incompatible with the internet

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Re: Age verification is incompatible with the internet

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post #19

Kids can purchase unrestricted amount of sugar drinks and ruin their health for the rest of their lives. I insist government implements age verification for soda purchases. All sodas must be accessible to 21+ years only.

A state in Mexico did this [1] [2] [3] with positive results (junk food). It's a good idea. If you can get it passed in the US, you have my PAC dollars/dark money and vote.

Sometimes "think of the children" really is think of the children.

> One-third of Mexicans aged 6 to 19 are overweight or obese, according to UNICEF. They may not be disproportionately affected by COVID-19 now, but they can suffer myriad health issues, especially in adulthood. [2]

(for comparison, 20% of children in the US are obese [4])

[1] https://www.npr.org/2020/09/14/912029399/we-had-to-take-acti...

[2] https://twitter.com/CongresoOaxaca_/status/12910804963032227...

[3] https://twitter.com/Magaly_LopezOax/status/12910848195611729...

[4] https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/childhood/index.html

Re: Age verification is incompatible with the internet

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Parents and caretakers have the ability to restrict children’s content on any device a child has access to. The burden should be on them to ensure their child is not consuming porn. It shouldn’t be everyone else’s problem that people are unwilling to parent their children.

Yep, but some parents would like to shift responsibility to others (government,...), because the alternative is to actually be a parent to their kids.

Clearly not a parent

Re: Age verification is incompatible with the internet

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post #17

This should not be that hard. How about: - At point of purchase for a consumer device that can view Internet content, the salesperson (or web store) is required to ask if the device is for an underage child, in which case either the device is placed in "child safe" mode, or printed instructions are directly provided giving instructions to do such. The child protection settings should be linked to the parent's e-mail…

> Adult sites are required to list themselves as such so they can be filtered (they already do this quite voluntarily).

There's actually a meta tag that most adult sites set to do this already. It's also used by Google to identify a website as adult for SafeSearch reasons. The process seems simple enough, https://www.rtalabel.org/index.html?content=howto (meta tag) and https://www.rtalabel.org/index.html?content=howtofaq#apache (http header)

It is strange web browsers don't take advantage of it, though. This combined with some kind of AI model would work in most cases I bet.

Re: Age verification is incompatible with the internet

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post #19

Kids can purchase unrestricted amount of sugar drinks and ruin their health for the rest of their lives. I insist government implements age verification for soda purchases. All sodas must be accessible to 21+ years only.

OK, I'm on board.

Re: Age verification is incompatible with the internet

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Something like that parody of printed manual check copy protection on the original Larry game might actually work? Years later I had a huge "oh, so that's the answer!" moment when I finally discovered the meaning of the words agent orange.

Jokes aside, what would be the failure mode if some metadata about audience minimum age was given legal blessing? Regular browsers would simply ignore it, browsers with enabled parental controls would reject the page or site. Vendors of parental controls could focus their efforts on suppressing those sites that lie and the numerous proxy services that would inevitably pop up (but that's a problem they already have I assume). What am I missing?

Re: Age verification is incompatible with the internet

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post #19

Kids can purchase unrestricted amount of sugar drinks and ruin their health for the rest of their lives. I insist government implements age verification for soda purchases. All sodas must be accessible to 21+ years only.

This, but unironically.

... though it probably shouldn't use the same age cutoff as beer. 18 or even 15 would be better.

The downside is that - even with mild enforcement - fast food would get even more expensive for people who buy the cheap items which are currently subsidized by drinks.

Re: Age verification is incompatible with the internet

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Parents and caretakers have the ability to restrict children’s content on any device a child has access to. The burden should be on them to ensure their child is not consuming porn. It shouldn’t be everyone else’s problem that people are unwilling to parent their children.

And what about producing porn?

Do we arrest the parent or the child when the child posts a picture of their genitals on insta-snap?

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