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Age verification is incompatible with the internet

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Re: Age verification is incompatible with the internet

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There are valid complaints to the idea being challenged, but it absolutely can be done technically and through legislation enforcing technical controls. Sophisticated users will use VPNs if they want to evade geoblocks, your average person won't (and any business that attempts to help them will be met with a legal hammer), and digital IDs are both reasonable and feasible to deploy at nation scale. Should it be used to govern access to adult content? A legislation issue!

Sane technology legislation requires competent representatives. This is what folks voted for. Parenting responsibility in the aggregate, very broadly speaking, is not what it used to be. This is not to say that parents today are worse, but that standards and resources are different (two adults having to work full time, quality time per week between parent and child, ubiquitous access to social, screens, and internet, etc).

Re: Age verification is incompatible with the internet

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Parents and caretakers have the ability to restrict children’s content on any device a child has access to. The burden should be on them to ensure their child is not consuming porn. It shouldn’t be everyone else’s problem that people are unwilling to parent their children.

Re: Age verification is incompatible with the internet

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AV is already widely utilized by thousands of internet companies and represents a significant market.

The issue is the companies being targeted have simply chosen to not enact any AV or gating measures because it would impact their existing business. Additionally, the targeted companies have solutions available but are leveraging legal and lobbying efforts vs. changing their business.

Source: I work for a company that distributes a widely used AV product.

Re: Age verification is incompatible with the internet

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Parents and caretakers have the ability to restrict children’s content on any device a child has access to. The burden should be on them to ensure their child is not consuming porn. It shouldn’t be everyone else’s problem that people are unwilling to parent their children.

Yep, but some parents would like to shift responsibility to others (government,...), because the alternative is to actually be a parent to their kids.

Re: Age verification is incompatible with the internet

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Parents and caretakers have the ability to restrict children’s content on any device a child has access to. The burden should be on them to ensure their child is not consuming porn. It shouldn’t be everyone else’s problem that people are unwilling to parent their children.

You can't expect parents to hover over their children 24/7. Apply the argument you're making to any other instance of corrupting minors. If you have sex with a 14 year old, you're not going to be able to say, "Well the kid's parents should have been watching him..." to the judge. The same applies to showing porn to one.

Re: Age verification is incompatible with the internet

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Parents and caretakers have the ability to restrict children’s content on any device a child has access to. The burden should be on them to ensure their child is not consuming porn. It shouldn’t be everyone else’s problem that people are unwilling to parent their children.

> any device a child has access to.

That's not the world we live in today. Stores local to me will sell a (terrible but internet capable) phone for $35 to anyone. So you are proposing moving the age verification to the device purchasing stage?

Re: Age verification is incompatible with the internet

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Parents and caretakers have the ability to restrict children’s content on any device a child has access to. The burden should be on them to ensure their child is not consuming porn. It shouldn’t be everyone else’s problem that people are unwilling to parent their children.

Yes parents should restrict their kids devices and keep an eye smart device usage generally IMHO. However, doing so well is not easy. There’s so many work arounds unless you severely limit device functionality.

For example, at least a few years back it was basically impossible to enforce DNS based filtering on iOS devices much less other more invasive setups.

Re: Age verification is incompatible with the internet

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AV is already widely utilized by thousands of internet companies and represents a significant market. The issue is the companies being targeted have simply chosen to not enact any AV or gating measures because it would impact their existing business. Additionally, the targeted companies have solutions available but are leveraging legal and lobbying efforts vs. changing their business. Source: I work for a company tha…

How are users supposed to know where they can and can't safely upload a sensitive picture of their ID?
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