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How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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Re: How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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Post by IanCal »

Bjartr wrote: post #224
IanCal wrote: post #193

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> there are a lot of episodes that are actually art. Indeed, I can't emphasise enough just how much this is underplayed in: > One storyline contrasts the adult dogs struggling to construct flat-pack furniture while the children create their own adventure This is a short episode that's fun for kids to watch with some adventure and a bit of parents struggling to build some furniture. It also covers the evolution of lif…

> some adventure and a bit of parents struggling to build some furniture. It also covers the evolution of life on the planet and futures beyond, growth, aging, letting your children go. It's like 5 minutes and entirely self contained, it's truly incredible. They crammed so much into so little time, it's truly impressive. That episode also depicts a religious creation myth with the parents as deities who provide mater…

> They crammed so much into so little time, it's truly impressive.

It is. I'm aware I'm gushing about it a lot but it's very impressive. It doesn't even feel rushed. To reiterate a point from earlier, this is all while being a fun thing for young children to watch.

Re: How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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Post by 174ac09182ad3fd »

no-dr-onboard wrote: post #257
ursuscamp wrote: post #213

Bluey blew me away when I saw it with my daughter. It's sweet, positive, emotional, well written. It's not the slightest bit cynical, handles every issue with tact, doesn't contain heavy handed messaging and has traditional values. It also has a very positive two parent dynamic. This is an absolute unicorn of a show. Note: my usage of "traditional values" is not meant to evoke anything political or intended to be int…

Yeah I'll go further. - It doesn't display the dad as a bumbling idiot for a start, an unmistakably uncommon move in home set shows. - It doesn't synthetically force women to the center stage for the sake of scoring points with left leaning audiences. - It doesn't shoehorn in political messages that don't belong and largely harkens back to a time where childrens television didn't require scrutiny of the publisher jus…

I'm amazed that you've written this post (presumably in good faith) and not provided a single concrete example.

The replies disagree with your assertions and are providing concrete examples. All of the replies are civil. One might call it civil discourse.

However, I suspect from the priming of your last line that you will not view it that way, and instead view it as "the average HN user" being intolerant of your ideas.

Instead, may I suggest engaging with the replies?

Re: How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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Post by skyyler »

theultdev wrote: post #389
skyyler wrote: post #385

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Why did you bring up whether the characters want to fuck?

Because that's what your sexual preference essentially is. Why is it relevant in a kid's show?

There's so much more to relationships and human connection and even romantic relationships than that.

Get your mind out of the gutter.

Re: How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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Post by theultdev »

skyyler wrote: post #393
theultdev wrote: post #389

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because that's what your sexual preference essentially is. Why is it relevant in a kid's show?

There's so much more to relationships and human connection and even romantic relationships than that. Get your mind out of the gutter.

Connections can be made in kids show without referencing sexual preferences, that's my point.

I just fail to see why you need to make a pony a lesbian in a kids show.

Why bring that up at all?

Re: How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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Post by skyyler »

theultdev wrote: post #394
skyyler wrote: post #393

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's so much more to relationships and human connection and even romantic relationships than that. Get your mind out of the gutter.

Connections can be made in kids show without referencing sexual preferences, that's my point. I just fail to see why you need to make a pony a lesbian in a kids show. Why bring that up at all?

Why bring up couples at all?

Are the heterosexual couples going to tell the kids about the sex they're having?

Re: How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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Post by theultdev »

skyyler wrote: post #395
theultdev wrote: post #394

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Connections can be made in kids show without referencing sexual preferences, that's my point. I just fail to see why you need to make a pony a lesbian in a kids show. Why bring that up at all?

Why bring up couples at all? Are the heterosexual couples going to tell the kids about the sex they're having?

That's why I said it's how it depends how it's presented, and you never explained so I don't know if it was appropriate or not.

Many kids shows I enjoyed never had any couples or parents in them, which avoids that altogether.

Re: How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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Post by theultdev »

sophacles wrote: post #386
theultdev wrote: post #384

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You teach morals to handle all situations. You don't have to directly have brokenness, sex, rape, drugs, and murder in kids shows even if those things exist in the real world.

I find it easier to learn abstract things like morals when there are also examples presented along-side them. More so when those examples are practical and applicable to my life. I find this to be a common sentiment. Are you really trying to say that showing brown people and kids with a single parent is equivalent to showing rape and drug use? Perhaps you should pause and reflect on your own morals if you think these…

First off, you brought up someone being killed as a real world struggle, so don't act like I pulled these real world events out of nowhere and tried to equate it to "brown people" (your words) alluding that I'm racist or something.

Second, my point was to show you that not everything in the real world needs to be depicted directly in kids shows. Not to make an equivalence of those listed things, but to test the consistency of the logic.

Learning morals you can learn how to handle those situations and ideals in the future without being introduced to inappropriate things too early in life.

Perhaps you shouldn't try to make an ad-hominem attack on my morals because you can't interpret it correctly. If you didn't understand, you could have asked for clarification.

Re: How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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Post by ceedan »

navbaker wrote: post #200
ceedan wrote: post #189

Bluey is great and we love it, but I do have to say that it is not as directly beneficial for very young children as something like Daniel Tiger. Daniel Tiger has episodes that directly and clearly address things that young children are going through (little siblings, using the bathroom, managing emotions, etc). Bluey has episodes that address those things but does so in ways that are less direct and comprehensible f…

I will be singing “if you have to go potty STOP! and go right away” until the day I die.

Were a "tactical wee" household which is a reference to the Fruit Bat episode of Bluey.

The Daniel Tiger potty song & book is gaining traction with our youngest, though

Re: How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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Post by skyyler »

theultdev wrote: post #396
skyyler wrote: post #395

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why bring up couples at all? Are the heterosexual couples going to tell the kids about the sex they're having?

That's why I said it's how it depends how it's presented, and you never explained so I don't know if it was appropriate or not. Many kids shows I enjoyed never had any couples or parents in them, which avoids that altogether.

That's really great, good talk, buddy.

Re: How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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Post by evan_ »

cruffle_duffle wrote: post #244
sandworm101 wrote: post #202

Does anyone else note the underlying racial component? All the dog families seem to be purebred. I don't remember seeing any mutts, any mixed-race dogs. And there are a few references to certain breeds of dog being better at certain things. I'm sure it is totally unintentional and probably cuts on dialoged by identifying which kids are from which parents, but it did strike me as odd.

> And there are a few references to certain breeds of dog being better at certain things. I mean, different dog breeds have different talents. In Bluey, the Sausage Dog has his moment where he can't run very well but he can roll (at least I think that was how it went). All the different dog breeds get get to use their special talents.

Pomeranians are a small but hardy breed!

I don't really think the different breeds of dogs are supposed to be taken as different human ethnicities or whatever, I think it's just a shorthand to show that kids can be different in all kinds of ways and have fun together. Athletic kids, bookworms, social butterflies, introverts, adventurous, and yes different cultures/ethnicities/religions/etc

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