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Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by singpolyma3 »

HWR_14 wrote: post #96
CamperBob2 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the only thing MS^H^H Bing has that offers a prayer of beating Google at something. Expect saturation.

Other than ads, search or mobile OS, I'm not sure where else Google is beating MS. I don't mean to diminish those things, they are important. But ChromeOS is clearly nowhere near displacing Windows (for instance).

ChromeOS? I think that's for old-person devices called "laptops"?

These days all people has is a smartphone and it runs Android or iOS, no Microsoft in sight.

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by Ajedi32 »

Sebguer wrote: post #37
Zandikar wrote: post #30

Honestly, my initial reaction to this was my typical jaded, cynical, anti-MS self, but after consideration - and the key fact that they're replacing a key, not adding one necessitating a new layout - I'm honestly okay with this. does anyone use the menu key (the key that allegedly this will replace)? It's certainly one of the first to go in enthusiast keyboards using non standard 100% layouts, As long as it's not som…

Mouse side button. Caps lock if I'm using a mouse that doesn't have one - but like, it depends on the context you're using PTT in. I only use it while gaming, really.

Soon we'll be living in the future Scotty envisioned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hShY6xZWVGE

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by tech234a »

doodpants wrote: post #109

"On an up-to-date Windows PC with Copilot enabled, you can currently do the same thing by pressing Windows + C. For PCs without Copilot enabled, including those that aren't signed into Microsoft accounts, the Copilot key will open Windows Search instead" Just tried Windows + C on my Win 10 machine; it brings up a dialog that helpfully informs me "Cortana in Windows as a standalone app is deprecated."

On Windows 10, Windows + S opens search.

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Post by ketralnis »

asdff wrote: post #101
jjordan wrote: post #6

The way Microsoft is pushing AI literally everywhere now feels reminiscent of circa 2001 when literally everything was branded '.NET'. Eventually they scaled it back, but it was complete overkill and diluted what the brand was supposed to represent.

Its not even microsoft its everyone and their grandmother pushing AI this AI that crap. Really language model this language model that, but we've perverted what AI actually means to the public already so that's great too for technological literacy purposes.

I mean sure it's "everybody" but renaming Edge to Edge: AI Browser (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft....) is more over the top than most.

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Post by rnd0 »

doodpants wrote: post #109

"On an up-to-date Windows PC with Copilot enabled, you can currently do the same thing by pressing Windows + C. For PCs without Copilot enabled, including those that aren't signed into Microsoft accounts, the Copilot key will open Windows Search instead" Just tried Windows + C on my Win 10 machine; it brings up a dialog that helpfully informs me "Cortana in Windows as a standalone app is deprecated."

>Just tried Windows + C on my Win 10 machine; it brings up a dialog that helpfully informs me "Cortana in Windows as a standalone app is deprecated."

smirks

I'm sure this button will share the same fate come 2030, 2034. That said, I'm curious what GNOME and MATE will do with it -if anything.

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Post by imron »

tiborsaas wrote: post #111
scrps wrote: post #28

Because everyone loves brand marketing on their keyboards... Microsoft would incur far less wrath if they would stop letting their marketing department run their company.

It's hard to buy a TV with a remote control that has no streaming provider buttons. I guess that's where they are getting the idea from.

Microsoft was having these ideas since before being a streaming provider was even possible as a business - see for example the windows key.

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Post by k8svet »

jerf wrote: post #114
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #11

What happens when you plug this keyboard into a Linux box? Is it just another Meta/Super key, except one that doesn't support combinations? Is it using one of the reserved USB HID keyboard scan codes? Or is it a separate device driver just for that one key?

It'll do whatever they spec it to do. The good news is, whatever they spec it to do will be available to Linux and other OSes because there's really no practical way to spec something Linux couldn't handle as well as Windows without risking antitrust action over something far too stupid to justify such a thing. The bad news is that people do sometimes do dumb things with keyboards for no reason. I'm using a Dell lapt…

And if they spec that the key just sends Win+Ctrl+Alt+C then what? I don't care about the new key, I care about the fact that it seems likely it will be implemented in an absurd way.

I guess yeah, you can still bind to that key combo and use the key, but you don't get capacity for a "new" binding.

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Post by sedatk »

mjburgess wrote: post #83
sedatk wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use right Ctrl only for Ctrl-Break, but still I’d be furious if it disappeared.

Is that to restart the diskette loader when switching from your 3.5" to 5.5" ?

Close, for cancelling the build on Visual Studio. :)
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