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Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by amlib »

bombcar wrote: post #20
hyperhopper wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shame on Ars for this. Would have thought they would be better. ESPECIALLY since the "since 1994" is not important for the headline at all, but they just wanted to pull something out of their ass to embellish the headline, but actually ended up making it wrong by doing so. I miss terse but descriptive headlines. Everything now has to be 11/10 wild or clickbait that doesn't actually give a full piece of information.

I believe the key (maahahaha) is the requirement . Microsoft famously required the Windows key for branded OEM computers/laptops, and now they're trying to require a Copilot key. We'll see if it flies.

I wished OEMs just crossed their arms and required Microsoft to pay a fee for each keyboard with this silly key...

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by whynotmaybe »

CrypticShift wrote: post #13

The placement of the key will vary, but in some cases, it will replace the right CTRL key or Menu key, a Microsoft spokesperson told BI [1] [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-ai-button-pc-keybo...

Well, if they replace the "menu" key with anything else, that won't have any impact on me as I never use it.

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by taftster »

zamadatix wrote: post #35

I hope this is implemented as an additional modifier instead of a macro type key combo. The more modifier keys on typical keyboards the merrier!

Ha ha, I'm just already thinking of the possibilities...

    Shift-CoPilot-C
Clippy resurrects, "how may I help you today?"

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by sedatk »

CrypticShift wrote: post #13

The placement of the key will vary, but in some cases, it will replace the right CTRL key or Menu key, a Microsoft spokesperson told BI [1] [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-ai-button-pc-keybo...

I use right Ctrl only for Ctrl-Break, but still I’d be furious if it disappeared.

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by nindalf »

scrps wrote: post #28

Because everyone loves brand marketing on their keyboards... Microsoft would incur far less wrath if they would stop letting their marketing department run their company.

You’re going to get shocked when you find the Windows key on most keyboards.

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by jen20 »

denton-scratch wrote: post #42
Zandikar wrote: post #30

Honestly, my initial reaction to this was my typical jaded, cynical, anti-MS self, but after consideration - and the key fact that they're replacing a key, not adding one necessitating a new layout - I'm honestly okay with this. does anyone use the menu key (the key that allegedly this will replace)? It's certainly one of the first to go in enthusiast keyboards using non standard 100% layouts, As long as it's not som…

> but does anyone use the menu key? I've never used the menu key. I don't really know what it does (what menu it's supposed to pull up). I object to software vendors dictating unnecessary features in peripherals their software isn't even going to run on.

It opens the context menu of the currently focused item. It's very useful for keyboard-centric Windows users (and probably works in KDE etc, though I haven't verified that).

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by bombcar »

amlib wrote: post #51
bombcar wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe the key (maahahaha) is the requirement . Microsoft famously required the Windows key for branded OEM computers/laptops, and now they're trying to require a Copilot key. We'll see if it flies.

I wished OEMs just crossed their arms and required Microsoft to pay a fee for each keyboard with this silly key...

That's effectively what "happens" but it's reversed; Microsoft gives a 'discount' if you're OEMing with the key ...

Perverse incentives all the way down. I remember having to work a bit to find "Apple" keyboards that would have the correct words because the Windows key was confusing (and in the wrong place until OS X easily supported remapping).

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by ziddoap »

hyperhopper wrote: post #17
kpozin wrote: post #9

What about the MS Office key and Emoji key? Those were definitely added after 1994. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/using-the-office-k...

Shame on Ars for this. Would have thought they would be better. ESPECIALLY since the "since 1994" is not important for the headline at all, but they just wanted to pull something out of their ass to embellish the headline, but actually ended up making it wrong by doing so. I miss terse but descriptive headlines. Everything now has to be 11/10 wild or clickbait that doesn't actually give a full piece of information.

I see the word "clickbait" on HN so often it's lost all meaning. The headline is fine, not 11/10, and not wild.

"Microsoft is adding a new key to PC keyboards" - true, descriptive.

"for the first time since 1994" - provides context to the weight of the decision of adding a new key, absolutely fine.

The headline is not wrong, this is the first key added that will be required as part of the standard keyboard layout since 1994. No shaming needed.

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by antisthenes »

tenebrisalietum wrote: post #44
jjordan wrote: post #6

The way Microsoft is pushing AI literally everywhere now feels reminiscent of circa 2001 when literally everything was branded '.NET'. Eventually they scaled it back, but it was complete overkill and diluted what the brand was supposed to represent.

What is Microsoft suppsed to represent? I'm not sure their brand has ever been anything more concrete over its total existence other than BASIC/MS-DOS in the beginning, a few long running products (Windows, Office, Xbox, Azure) and that it is involved with user-facing technology.

I think at this point MS is really representing the enterprise/corporate Office suite as well as being exceptionally annoying with their Browser strategy.

But that's just my IMHO.

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