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How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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Re: How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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yes, acceptance of others is an overly political message to those of a certain political persuasion. can’t have kids running around thinking whatever they grow into might be ok if it doesn’t comport with mommy and daddy’s worldview.

Whatever kids grow up into is not okay with most parents. I’d imagine almost everyone would agree with that statement. There are probably traits you wouldn’t want your children to have. You probably wouldn’t be okay with them being gambling or drug addicts, racist, murderers, uneducated, etc. If parents were truly okay with their children growing up into whatever they happen to grow into, there would be no reason for…

>You probably wouldn’t be okay with them being gambling or drug addicts, racist, murderers, uneducated, etc.

Some are objective. Not much interpretation to whaty a gambler or drug addict is. But the sad thing is that "racism" and especially "educated" are highly subjective.

>Why does the idea of a parent wanting to impart their vision of how the world ought to be offend you?

Depends on the vision. Obviously as a black man I'd have an issue with people who's "vision" is that black people are dangerous, dumb, and dirty. I imagine it's the exact same for a lesbian, or a trans person, or even a not rich person.

And of course not all disagreements are equal. I may not prefer a helicopter approach but that is ultimately a choice that does not impact me nor my family. The former, not so much. Your freedom ends where mine begins.

Re: How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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Our kids absolutely adore this show, and so do my wife and I. It is just about the only thing we'll let them watch. As others have said: it's because the show isn't trying to force any ridiculous cultural progressivism on my children. But also: it doesn't seem to be made by (am I joking?) the same people who would otherwise make slot machines. While other kids shows seem like an outright attack on my children's atten…

Even though it's not political, the right-wingers feel the need to make their own version with "traditional family values". It's called Chip Chilla: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/oct/17/is-new-kids-...

Seems ridiculous to me; they show "traditional" gender roles in the ripoff show to avoid "indoctrination".

Re: How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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Though I agree that the songs should be listed in the credits, iOS has Shazam built-in now that Apple bought it, which will recognize songs ("hey Siri, what's this song?"). I'd be shocked if Android didn't have something similar.

I’m not sure if that works since at least for the classical music, they seem to be recording their own versions.

Ah, classical; got it. I frankly have not tried it with classical, but do vaguely recall that others have reported the same. Apologies for the wild goose chase.

Re: How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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I feel like I'm the only parent on planet Earth that really doesn't like Bluey. Every time I watch it(which is often, my son likes it), it just seems to be promoting bad behaviour at the expense of the dad(like many other shows to be fair - looking at you Peppa Pig), including physical violence(one episode the kids decide the dad now has a stomach ache, so they punch him in the gut - and the dad just plays along with…

I wish Bluey hadn't introduced the concept of a "bush wee" to my kid, I've had to explain that no, we can't pee in someone's yard in the middle of our busy neighborhood...

This is a culture difference. The U.S. seems peculiarly against this compared to most of the rest of the world. It seems especially acceptable for kids most places. We may have to accept that we're the weird ones on this. It's just pee.

Re: How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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Bluey and her sister are 6 and 4 years old at the start of the show, now 7 and 5. I don’t think the show is made with 2 year olds in mind. Maybe 3.5 and up, but a lot of the concepts are for the 5+ kids in my opinion.

Good children's programming often presents characters somewhat older (in affect, if not truly in age, e.g. Big Bird) than the target audience, to act as role models. You don't want a typical 3-year-old to look to a typical 3-year-old as an example for what to aspire to, you want them to look at well-developing 4-, 5-, and 6-year olds. This works well anyway, since children often look up to older kids and are interest…

This is correct. Kids generally don't like watching shows for or starring "babies" (really kids their own age) unless they're very small.

Re: How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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post #204

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yes, acceptance of others is an overly political message to those of a certain political persuasion. can’t have kids running around thinking whatever they grow into might be ok if it doesn’t comport with mommy and daddy’s worldview.

Whatever kids grow up into is not okay with most parents. I’d imagine almost everyone would agree with that statement. There are probably traits you wouldn’t want your children to have. You probably wouldn’t be okay with them being gambling or drug addicts, racist, murderers, uneducated, etc. If parents were truly okay with their children growing up into whatever they happen to grow into, there would be no reason for…

What "vision" of the world is it that you're talking about?

Re: How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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Yes, you did. Both blackface and drag performance have particular histories you're intentionally and erroneously conflating. The former is racist in its origin. The latter is not misogynistic in either its origin or contemporaneous performance.

Drag is men dressing up as caricatures of women. They wear costumes intended to represent women and mimic female bodies, adopt a 'woman' persona under a feminised and often heavily sexualised name, and act out every demeaning, offensive stereotype of women for laughs, often leaning heavily on mocking women's bodies and the physical experiences exclusive to women: pregnancy, birth, breastfeeding, menstruation, and som…

I guess you think that bodybuilders, models, and actors (film and especially Theatre) are all misandric/misogynistic as well? They fit all the items above as well.

I guess I see why the comment upstream was flagged.

Re: How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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I disagree a bit with the sibling commenter. This episode falls into about the second season of the show midway through. So putting yourself into that context: you’re watching something like 35 episodes of this show and it’s cute and wholesome and the stories are great, some with some emotional impact, but then you get to this episode and it just absolutely blindsides you. So, I think it will _make sense_ on its own,…

I’ve seen the episode many times, but I don’t get what’s the blindside? Are you referring to how it references the fact that parents will eventually leave their kids when they die? That’s only mentioned indirectly by the mom, no? Is there a deeper story that I am missing?

The blindside being the unique tone of the episode, compared to what came before it. It still has silliness and is a fun watch.

Some things that I think make it hit differently:

* The house and most scenes are dimly lit

* You see the family in various stages of sleep

* The musical score has some intense crescendo

* The vulnerability it shows

It's a small glimpse of night time in a house with a child that is still transitioning to sleeping on their own. Having had kids, that weight being lifted as they finally "get it" is a unique feeling of bittersweet relief. It also shows the lengths the parents go through to make it a graceful and comforting transition.

Re: How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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I'm not the OP so I don't know what they define as "crap." However, there is a lot of programming out there that solely exists to keep children's attention while doing nothing with it. The most egregious example that comes to mind is the CoComelon channel on YouTube: literally 1-2 hour videos of nursery rhymes with mediocre animation. It's not some small channel either; one of their 2+ hour videos has 484M views.

Cocomelon is seriously the elite of YouTube. And fine for small kids I think, who wouldn't understand things like Bluey. All the messages are around "be nice", "share", "say please and thank you". There's lots of videos of kids unpacking presents, or having tantrums to get what they want, or weird videos of adults shouting at children... Or videos showing people play computer games for hours on end.

> And fine for small kids I think, who wouldn't understand things like Bluey

You are vastly underestimating what small children can understand.

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