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How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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Re: How Australia’s ‘Bluey’ conquered children’s entertainment

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Post by xyzzy_plugh »

wharvle wrote: post #268
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> so much complete crap out there now that Bluey is a breath of fresh air Out of curiosity, as a non-parent, what makes it crap?

There are lots of extremely-cheap kids TV shows on places like Netflix or D+[1], many of which (on Netflix) are imports from e.g. Turkey with bad dubbing, that have plots so inane it's hard to express just how inane they are. Everyone's always acting stressed out and emoting over-the-top (so they hold kids' attention) but nothing is happening, all the conflict is over nothing , anything resembling an actual problem b…

> tons of them go on and on and on with the trappings of a story but no actual story, just things happening one after another and weird nebulous goals that never seem to get any closer,

So like every JJ Abrams production.

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Post by thepasswordis »

eggy wrote: post #249

Love this show! Although the Dad never seems to work, plays all day, and sets the bar pretty high for me especially on the last 2 of my 5 children. I'm out of steam. I too succumb to the emotional episodes, and I am grateful for every tear I share with my kids! I grew up watching Bugs Bunny, Davy and Goliath, Gumby, and All in the Family as a young kid for a contrast!

There's a whole episode about dad having to working and the kids bothering him while he does!

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Post by netchkin »

afavour wrote: post #274
no-dr-onboard wrote: post #257

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Yeah I'll go further. - It doesn't display the dad as a bumbling idiot for a start, an unmistakably uncommon move in home set shows. - It doesn't synthetically force women to the center stage for the sake of scoring points with left leaning audiences. - It doesn't shoehorn in political messages that don't belong and largely harkens back to a time where childrens television didn't require scrutiny of the publisher jus…

> The show unashamedly depicts an intact household with two loving, heterosexual parents. It's "stunning and brave" in the current culture. Eh? I'm trying to think of peer shows of Bluey... Peppa Pig and Daniel Tiger come to mind (Trash Truck anyone? Charming little show), heterosexual parents are by far and away the norm. The idea that it's "brave" to show them feels like a conservative talking point that's out of s…

This reminds me I never cracked how society works in Bing, as well as how kids are born.

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Post by skyyler »

geraldwhen wrote: post #285
afavour wrote: post #274

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> The show unashamedly depicts an intact household with two loving, heterosexual parents. It's "stunning and brave" in the current culture. Eh? I'm trying to think of peer shows of Bluey... Peppa Pig and Daniel Tiger come to mind (Trash Truck anyone? Charming little show), heterosexual parents are by far and away the norm. The idea that it's "brave" to show them feels like a conservative talking point that's out of s…

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Chrissie is based on a character from the original Mr Rogers show.

You are trying to find things to be mad about, it seems.

"interracial household"? That's something you take issue with?

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Post by mattbee »

timeimp wrote: post #29

The best part is how people are learning that the Disney+ version is censored. Yes, a childrens show is censored, in current year. Why? Because some jokes don't play well with adults, even though they go right over kids heads. Have a Google for "Bluey censored" to see what I mean!

Also, Disney+ plays the episodes too slowly. They come out about 30s longer compared to BBC iPlayer; you can hear it in the theme tune.

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Post by afavour »

geraldwhen wrote: post #285
afavour wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The show unashamedly depicts an intact household with two loving, heterosexual parents. It's "stunning and brave" in the current culture. Eh? I'm trying to think of peer shows of Bluey... Peppa Pig and Daniel Tiger come to mind (Trash Truck anyone? Charming little show), heterosexual parents are by far and away the norm. The idea that it's "brave" to show them feels like a conservative talking point that's out of s…

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> Daniel tiger jams in diversity at every opportunity.

It clearly doesn't given that Daniel Tiger's family, the primary family unit of the show, is a heterosexual couple.

> interracial

I guess I'm losing track of what we're supposed to be offended about now. OP suggested that depicting a heterosexual couple was “brave”, I pointed out that it happens all the time. Are we now arguing that there should be absolutely no instances of mixed-race, orientation or disabilities in kids shows at all?

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Post by calmworm »

Love the show, all around great characters, stories, problem solving and conflict resolution… One thing I’ve found strange is what items/scenes they choose to change (“censor”) from the AU version to the US version. Could be a Disney decision and the mouse gets what it wants but still…

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Post by nindalf »

geraldwhen wrote: post #285
afavour wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The show unashamedly depicts an intact household with two loving, heterosexual parents. It's "stunning and brave" in the current culture. Eh? I'm trying to think of peer shows of Bluey... Peppa Pig and Daniel Tiger come to mind (Trash Truck anyone? Charming little show), heterosexual parents are by far and away the norm. The idea that it's "brave" to show them feels like a conservative talking point that's out of s…

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> Miscellena is from an interracial household

I’m so sorry you and your child had to witness that. Must have been quite traumatic.

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Post by wharvle »

xyzzy_plugh wrote: post #291
wharvle wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are lots of extremely-cheap kids TV shows on places like Netflix or D+[1], many of which (on Netflix) are imports from e.g. Turkey with bad dubbing, that have plots so inane it's hard to express just how inane they are. Everyone's always acting stressed out and emoting over-the-top (so they hold kids' attention) but nothing is happening, all the conflict is over nothing , anything resembling an actual problem b…

> tons of them go on and on and on with the trappings of a story but no actual story, just things happening one after another and weird nebulous goals that never seem to get any closer, So like every JJ Abrams production.

He's not that bad, he tells actual stories, kinda, he's just the laziest plotter in the history of script writing.

"They throw Kirk off the Enterprise! And... uh... Old Spock just happens to be there! Like, right there! Because it's less work for me if he just is, for no reason! I don't want to think of a real reason and maybe have to go back and revise stuff, or remember things later, to integrate that! He just is!"

"They escape on the Millennium Falcon, and Han and Chewie show up... uh, I guess they'll need another ship for that, so now we have two. And I guess there was a homing beacon on the Falcon, that got activated, and Han just happened to be about five minutes away and already sitting in his cockpit and ready to go and not already on the way somewhere else, in hyperspace? Yeah, doesn't matter, I just need him to be there now so he is, doing something else would be hard. Oh shit I have two ships now, and I need them all on the Falcon, so, uh... monsters and pirates destroy the extra ship I just introduced! Yeah there are monsters and pirates now. Do either of those stick around or come back, or are they, like, foreshadowed? No, I just needed them to destroy this ship that I manifested for my own convenience, but no longer have any use for."

"I need these characters to go somewhere else, so, uh... someone/something shows up and chases them away! There are no other consequences or meaningful connections, they just get chased so that they leave and go to where I need them to be."

Et c.

[EDIT] To be fair, most writers do some of this, they just don't do it quite so willy-nilly and build entire plots that way.

[EDIT EDIT] This also doesn't necessarily mean his movies are bad. The plotting... I mean, that part's bad, incredibly bad, like, paragon of bad plotting, should-be-covered-in-film-schools bad, in some of them. But it's not impossible that a movie could still be entertaining, or even good, despite that. I don't mean this to dismiss his entire body of work as absolutely and entirely bad, and actually started out defending him as markedly better at everything than the kind of scripts and TV shows I was writing about, which he certainly is.

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