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Re: Google Drive

#91
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Google & Apple make outstanding marketing videos. They are routinely some of the best I see in any industry, and the clear leaders in the tech industry. The only "startup" I have seen that rivals their quality of marketing videos is Square. Does anyone know how much producing video like this costs?

The Google Drive video is too professional and kind of boring.

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Re: Google Drive

#92
I tried it quickly. And couple things I have grip with. 1. I Synced my folders and a couple files showed up. I deleted the files I didn't want in my google drive on the computer, and they were removed from google drive.

2. I disconnected, And when I tried to sync back up it wanted my Google drive folder to be empty. It wanted to re-sync everything from the online Drive account. It wouldn't pick up where it left off.

I stopped using it right away.

That was my experience. I'm sure they will fix it. Unless I'm using it wrong.

Re: Google Drive

#94
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree and I have no affiliation with Dropbox or have any vested interest in their success. I just tend to think that the optimal cloud solution is as close to invisible as possible while letting people use whichever software tools they need. I don't really see any single entity owning the software and the storage because no single entity can own the collaboration tools. I view collaboration and syncing as two di…

I think you just nailed something exactly on the head that I've had a hard time describing to people. For me, the fundamental problem with a service like Google Docs is that it is the ONLY way I can edit a document. Whereas on my computer, I can open a .doc file (synced with Dropbox) in Word, TextEdit, OpenOffice, NeoOffice, or just about any other document editor. Doubly so for more platform-agnostic files (e.g. txt…

You can download, edit and upload Google docs in a range of formats, including Word, ODT, RTF, etc.

The biggest problem with the file-based route is when you have multiple people working on one file. You can't work on it at the same time (or you have a merge problem.) You have to sidechannel quite a bit about which version is the current "master". All kinds of issues that are solved by using a non-file-centric document.

Re: Google Drive

#95
post #8

Google & Apple make outstanding marketing videos. They are routinely some of the best I see in any industry, and the clear leaders in the tech industry. The only "startup" I have seen that rivals their quality of marketing videos is Square. Does anyone know how much producing video like this costs?

The Square video (and many of the ones in the same style) are by this guy: http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-lisagor-lonelysandwich-2...

Re: Google Drive

#97
post #81

The best thing about this is that it will finally force Dropbox to offer more storage at a cheaper price point. $200 bucks for 100GB of personal storage per year? I've long thought it's ridiculously high for mass adoption and so many more would be using it if the price was a bit more reasonable. For me: 1. I need much more space than 100GB - I'd ideally like a TB+ on the cloud. 2. The price has to be more acceptable.…

I get the feeling that this is also going to force Amazon to lower their S3 prices. To store 100GB on S3's standard storage costs around $12/month right now [ http://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/ ]. Even if Dropbox were getting the best price on that page, it would still cost them $3.7/month to store 100GB.

AWS prices are negotiable. They're certainly getting a better price than what's on that page.

Re: Google Drive

#98
post #81

The best thing about this is that it will finally force Dropbox to offer more storage at a cheaper price point. $200 bucks for 100GB of personal storage per year? I've long thought it's ridiculously high for mass adoption and so many more would be using it if the price was a bit more reasonable. For me: 1. I need much more space than 100GB - I'd ideally like a TB+ on the cloud. 2. The price has to be more acceptable.…

I get the feeling that this is also going to force Amazon to lower their S3 prices. To store 100GB on S3's standard storage costs around $12/month right now [ http://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/ ]. Even if Dropbox were getting the best price on that page, it would still cost them $3.7/month to store 100GB.

It would be interesting if you could map an S3 drive locally - then do a custom install of dropbox and point it at the S3 mapping on whatever machine you have then you'd be using dropbox to sync to S3

Re: Google Drive

#99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you just nailed something exactly on the head that I've had a hard time describing to people. For me, the fundamental problem with a service like Google Docs is that it is the ONLY way I can edit a document. Whereas on my computer, I can open a .doc file (synced with Dropbox) in Word, TextEdit, OpenOffice, NeoOffice, or just about any other document editor. Doubly so for more platform-agnostic files (e.g. txt…

You can download, edit and upload Google docs in a range of formats, including Word, ODT, RTF, etc. The biggest problem with the file-based route is when you have multiple people working on one file. You can't work on it at the same time (or you have a merge problem.) You have to sidechannel quite a bit about which version is the current "master". All kinds of issues that are solved by using a non-file-centric docume…

Right, but if you are always using the default app for each (which I would have to believe the vast majority of people are), there isn't much added value to being able to edit files in Google Docs. As long as the file itself is being maintained in a central location, I don't believe that there is a whole lot of value in Google productivity software.

Syncing solutions should not dictate which software you use. One environment should be completely agnostic of others and only be tied together by file formats. So my original point was that I don't see the value add in Google Drive overtaking Dropbox just because it has accompanying productivity software. I think the software has to stand on its own, which I do not believe it can do.

Re: Google Drive

#100
post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can download, edit and upload Google docs in a range of formats, including Word, ODT, RTF, etc. The biggest problem with the file-based route is when you have multiple people working on one file. You can't work on it at the same time (or you have a merge problem.) You have to sidechannel quite a bit about which version is the current "master". All kinds of issues that are solved by using a non-file-centric docume…

Right, but if you are always using the default app for each (which I would have to believe the vast majority of people are), there isn't much added value to being able to edit files in Google Docs. As long as the file itself is being maintained in a central location, I don't believe that there is a whole lot of value in Google productivity software. Syncing solutions should not dictate which software you use. One env…

I agree, but I don't think folks are saying it's going to overtake Dropbox _because_ of the accompanying productivity software so much as the integration of that and the syncing of normal files.

Easier to explain via my own example: I have Dropbox, and I'm also a fairly heavy docs user. Now that's there's Drive, it's a no-brainer to just take all my files out of Dropbox and drop them into Drive so when I'm looking for something like a letter from last year, I only have to search one web site / app and it's got everything from docs to PDF scans. There's no comparable way of going the other direction (moving all my files to Dropbox) without losing a ton of functionality. Word is good, but it's really primitive compared to Doc at this point when it comes to collaborative work and access on my phone, tablet, etc.

It's also worth noting that in the case of Google Docs, Drive isn't really a syncing solution (unless you're using Docs in offline mode) since there's no files to sync. It's just a way to access your docs.

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