Weird. If these turn signals are hard to use, that's an argument for teaching them in driving school.
It's hard to drive blindfolded, so I'm not sure if difficulty is the best indicator of usefulness.
Tesla is banned from driving schools because of new turn signals
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#32Speaking of bad turn signals (though in this case for other drivers, and not the driver of the vehicle), can we make it illegal for cars to only indicate from their rear by blinking the entire brake light? I think I've heard it's a requirement in some countries for the rear indicators to use the amber light alongside the brake lights, which makes a lot of sense because making the brake light serve double duty is freq…
>>can we make it illegal for cars to only indicate from their rear by blinking the entire brake light?
That's one of(many different) things that bother me about American cars - like who thought this was a good idea??? Was it to save money? Literally everyone else in the world uses a separate amber bulb in the rear to indicate.
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> What fees/monies did tesla pay to be included in driving schools? They are paying 'student drivers' Huh? Students are bringing their own cars (or their parents' cars) to driving school, and some of those cars are Tesla Model 3s. The students (and/or their parents) are paying the school, not vice versa. Tesla is not paying the schools (or the students, or their parents) to bring those cars to driving school.
I am completely wrong about this situation. I feel bad.
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I still hold my point on corruption :-)
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I think you for that clarification.
Re: Tesla is banned from driving schools because of new turn signals
#34I don’t drive, so I’m a little unclear as to what the issue is with Tesla’s force-touch turn signals specifically in roundabouts. The article only states that it’s a problem, but not how it’s a problem. Could anyone elaborate? To be clear - I can understand why this design is awful more generally. What I don’t understand is the problem it poses specifically in roundabouts since that seems to be the central point of t…
> he also found a specific case where they are dangerous: roundabouts/ In Norway, you have to indicate your exit in a roundabout by activating your turn signal, and he found it difficult while turning the steering wheel, which you have to do in a roundabout. The article clearly articulates one scenario..
FYI, curious people can desire more description and detail than that.
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#35Weird. If these turn signals are hard to use, that's an argument for teaching them in driving school.
Not really. Why train students in a Tesla with steering wheel buttons for turn signals and expect them to understand how a turn signal stalk works?
Training requires standards, not exceptions.
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#36Not a problem in Canada. Everybody either doesn't use turn signals, or uses turn signals wrong in roundabouts whether they are driving a Tesla or not.
Re: Tesla is banned from driving schools because of new turn signals
#37Just to get this right. The turn signal is actually "on the wheel"? So it turns with the wheel? How is that even a thing? How are you supposed to press the button if you are in a curve? The roundabout example is a good one, there is about one every 100m here, but there are are also many highway exits which curves a lot (180° or even 270° turn) and you have two lane you have to indicate where you go.
One example on the top of my head: https://maps.app.goo.gl/BFCTELKbJpaqqVW39
I am not against trying new things, it seems quite dangerous. I am not surprised it got banned from driving school. But I am surprised it was allowed my regulators.
Re: Tesla is banned from driving schools because of new turn signals
#38I don’t drive, so I’m a little unclear as to what the issue is with Tesla’s force-touch turn signals specifically in roundabouts. The article only states that it’s a problem, but not how it’s a problem. Could anyone elaborate? To be clear - I can understand why this design is awful more generally. What I don’t understand is the problem it poses specifically in roundabouts since that seems to be the central point of t…
The driving instructor believes that the capacitive buttons on the surface of the steering yoke are difficult to use while you are turning through a roundabout.
Re: Tesla is banned from driving schools because of new turn signals
#39Speaking of bad turn signals (though in this case for other drivers, and not the driver of the vehicle), can we make it illegal for cars to only indicate from their rear by blinking the entire brake light? I think I've heard it's a requirement in some countries for the rear indicators to use the amber light alongside the brake lights, which makes a lot of sense because making the brake light serve double duty is freq…
I think here (europe) the turn signal must be orange and separate from the brakes. But you still see some imported american cars from time to time.
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#40Weird. If these turn signals are hard to use, that's an argument for teaching them in driving school.
There has to be a line somewhere though, right?
Like if the turn signals were hidden on the main touchscreen, under options->settings->turn signals left/right, we would conclude that this is an absolutely idiotic design that shouldn't be allowed on the road, not just say "weird, maybe they should just teach that if it's so hard"?
The problem here is that you might have to use the turn signal mid-turn, and if the buttons are on the wheel it can be really confusing if not downright I possible to operate them when turning. Tesla isn't the first to do this - some Lambos/Ferraris also do this, good luck finding a single owner who doesn't hate it.