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Re: Block cookie banners on Firefox

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Funny, I use the "I still don't care about cookies" extension ( https://github.com/OhMyGuus/I-Still-Dont-Care-About-Cookies ) right now to automatically accept the cookie banners. They're literally one of the most annoying things that has happened in the web's history

I always get downvoted for saying this but I think the cookie banners broke taboos about intrusive and annoying pop-ups in web sites. There was a time the tech and design oriented people could fight against it for the users but once it was required or maybe “socially positive” it got much harder to fight against all the others so you find the blogs now that will interrupt you three times to give your email and such.…

Yeah. If there MUST be banners then, hey, why not cover half the #%^*ing screen with a “give us your email” banner.

Re: Block cookie banners on Firefox

#72
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The EU forcing this garbage is one of the worst things to happen to the web.

Murica not catching up with the game not regulating anything and literally letting crooked billionaires do whatever they like is one of the worst things happen to the web :(

> literally letting crooked billionaires do whatever they like

How exactly have these banners prevented that?

Re: Block cookie banners on Firefox

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most content websites work completely fine with JS disabled. There’s a certain sort of startup landing page that’s very commonly broken, but on general content pages it’s definitely uncommon. Though blank pages still aren’t as rare as they should be. Source: I’ve disabled JS by default for I think three years now, and hold that it generally improves the web. My technique is to disable JS via uMatrix, but don’t enable…

It does not improve anything. The web is apps now, denying that is silly. I don't want to reload the page with each search or action in gmail. Neither do I want to download telegram or whatsapp if they can be used as a browser tab.

That's a cool opinion, but I disagree. It's not all going to JavaScript only. Even Amazon works without JavaScript. You asked for blocking cookies on content. It works.

Re: Block cookie banners on Firefox

#74

Given browser headers have existed for a long time, does anyone know why there isn't some protocol of your browser saying "give me all the cookies", "give me only essential cookies" or "give me all cookies except trackibgbones" etc? Instead if tedious and manual banners on every website? I get why companies might not want this (less cookie acceptance) but they didn't want cookies to require consent either and the EU…

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Not_Track , though this wasn't part of any regulations.

The successor to Do Not Track is the Global Privacy Control, which companies are required to respect in several states, including California and Colorado. Support for GPC is already built into Firefox and Brave, but must be enabled in the privacy settings. Users of other browsers can get the benefits of the GPC opt-out using third party extensions like EFF's Privacy Badger.

See: https://globalprivacycontrol.org/

Re: Block cookie banners on Firefox

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most content websites work completely fine with JS disabled. There’s a certain sort of startup landing page that’s very commonly broken, but on general content pages it’s definitely uncommon. Though blank pages still aren’t as rare as they should be. Source: I’ve disabled JS by default for I think three years now, and hold that it generally improves the web. My technique is to disable JS via uMatrix, but don’t enable…

It does not improve anything. The web is apps now, denying that is silly. I don't want to reload the page with each search or action in gmail. Neither do I want to download telegram or whatsapp if they can be used as a browser tab.

I clearly spoke of content websites. I’m not suggesting disabling JS for web apps. You can easily enable or disable for specific sites with extensions like uMatrix and NoScript.

Re: Block cookie banners on Firefox

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always get downvoted for saying this but I think the cookie banners broke taboos about intrusive and annoying pop-ups in web sites. There was a time the tech and design oriented people could fight against it for the users but once it was required or maybe “socially positive” it got much harder to fight against all the others so you find the blogs now that will interrupt you three times to give your email and such.…

We’ve had far more annoying pop ups and banners since the 90s. One of Opera’s primary selling points at one time was its popup blocking capabilities and that was in the 90s or latest in the 2001/2002 timeframe from what I can remember.

He's not saying that cookie banners were the first pop up. He's saying that you can delineate a before time and an after time that is delineated by the cookie banners. Before: pop ups were bad and browsers would advertise about how they defeated pop ups. After: pop ups are acceptable and you're bad if you want to defeat them.

Re: Block cookie banners on Firefox

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> For example, they might make the Accept All Cookies button prominent, colorful and appealing, while burying the Customize Settings option in small text or a less noticeable location. This design choice can be misleading, effectively nudging users towards accepting all cookies without considering the consequences. Kind of burying the lede there that this isn't just annoying, it's illegal.

I recently went to a webpage that on landing it opened the cookie modal full page with a big "We Respect Your Privacy!" and all the cookies were listed and opted out. Which was really nice, then you scroll down to reveal the buttons and the big prominent button was "Accept All Cookies" and the other smaller button was the "Save Settings" button. They were all colors that blended so if you were going too fast you just wouldn't see the words against the background.

I was really just impressed by the lengths they went to to steal consent.

Re: Block cookie banners on Firefox

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It’s such a convenient outcome that the banners annoy people in to giving /explicit/ consent (every non techie user I’ve observed just click “accept”, oath of least resistance), when before it was a quite a grey area, as I understand it, that you have to wonder if it’s more than just a happy coincidence.

Re: Block cookie banners on Firefox

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I honestly don't like this idea. I hate cookie banners just like anyone else, and use addons to remove them. But I don't think it's browsers' job to modify web content based on their discretion, even with good intentions. I especially hate it when a manually crafted list is involved (as said in the article). I think it should be done of 3rd-party addons/rules, not the browser vendor.

I had the same thought until I remembered that i use the pop up blocker from the same browser. It's really not different. Pop ups are valid html/js that we depend on the browser disrespecting, so are third party cookies.

Re: Block cookie banners on Firefox

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Given browser headers have existed for a long time, does anyone know why there isn't some protocol of your browser saying "give me all the cookies", "give me only essential cookies" or "give me all cookies except trackibgbones" etc? Instead if tedious and manual banners on every website? I get why companies might not want this (less cookie acceptance) but they didn't want cookies to require consent either and the EU…

Keep in mind that these aren't really "cookie banners", they are data processing consent forms. They ask for your consent for way more than just cookies - things like browser fingerprinting, IP address tracking, etc.

Browsers auto-deleting (or rather not storing) cookies doesn't do anything to address the other stuff.

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