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Re: OpenIndiana Illumos Distro

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Post by pjmlp »

palmfacehn wrote: post #30
pjmlp wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The improvements regarding memory tagging, the first UNIX architecture to ship memory tagging in production for years, has been done under Oracle management.

Will they keep the architecture going forward with new chips?

SPARC is doing just fine for the context of existing Solaris customers.

ARM, RISC-V and CHERI have similar memory tagging capabilities for Linux/Windows users.

The elephant in the room are Intel/AMD not being able to deliver on that front, after several failed attempts.

Re: OpenIndiana Illumos Distro

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Post by mgoetzke »

spicykraken wrote: post #9
wannacboatmovie wrote: post #2

Serious question, I thought OpenIndiana was dead? I've tried OmniOS, saw that it had a massive memory leak in the base install, and determined it wasn't for me. Is there any good alternative of Solaris lineage left? (That doesn't involve selling your soul to Oracle.)

SmartOS is still going strong with bi-weekly releases: https://us-central.manta.mnx.io/Joyent_Dev/public/SmartOS/sm...

And we use it in production for critical workloads and its fantastic :)

Re: OpenIndiana Illumos Distro

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Post by stonogo »

tedunangst wrote: post #13
stonogo wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's an effort to support it: https://dlc.openindiana.aurora-opencloud.org/SPARC/ I think it doesn't have much support because the majority of SPARC gear out there runs better with SunOS. Solaris was a big jump up in processing requirements.

Ignoring 20 years of sparc hardware produced after the last sunos release.

Yes, it's pretty clear everyone is. What's your point?

Re: OpenIndiana Illumos Distro

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Post by tedunangst »

stonogo wrote: post #35
tedunangst wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ignoring 20 years of sparc hardware produced after the last sunos release.

Yes, it's pretty clear everyone is. What's your point?

The majority of sparc gear out there doesn't run sunos at all, let alone better.

Re: OpenIndiana Illumos Distro

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Post by rbanffy »

pjmlp wrote: post #31
palmfacehn wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Will they keep the architecture going forward with new chips?

SPARC is doing just fine for the context of existing Solaris customers. ARM, RISC-V and CHERI have similar memory tagging capabilities for Linux/Windows users. The elephant in the room are Intel/AMD not being able to deliver on that front, after several failed attempts.

> SPARC is doing just fine for the context of existing Solaris customers.

In other words, it's a legacy product. There's no future roadmap for SPARC, unlike ARM, x86, POWER, and Z.

Re: OpenIndiana Illumos Distro

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

wannacboatmovie wrote: post #2

Serious question, I thought OpenIndiana was dead? I've tried OmniOS, saw that it had a massive memory leak in the base install, and determined it wasn't for me. Is there any good alternative of Solaris lineage left? (That doesn't involve selling your soul to Oracle.)

http://tribblix.org/ ?

Re: OpenIndiana Illumos Distro

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

throwaway0x4 wrote: post #34

What are some reasons to use Sloaris based operating systems over Linux these days?

Any illumos distro will be better at ZFS than anything Linux-based. Granted, the amount will vary by distro; last I saw, Ubuntu had relatively good support. Beyond that, I'm personally quite fond of the overall design and polish of openindiana, at least. One example is how it automatically handles ZFS snapshots and boot environments with the package manager - all the pieces are there to do that on other systems, but setting up the integration is harder.

Re: OpenIndiana Illumos Distro

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Post by palmfacehn »

rbanffy wrote: post #37
pjmlp wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SPARC is doing just fine for the context of existing Solaris customers. ARM, RISC-V and CHERI have similar memory tagging capabilities for Linux/Windows users. The elephant in the room are Intel/AMD not being able to deliver on that front, after several failed attempts.

> SPARC is doing just fine for the context of existing Solaris customers. In other words, it's a legacy product. There's no future roadmap for SPARC, unlike ARM, x86, POWER, and Z.

From my limited reading on the topic, even Fujitsu has moved on to ARM. Maybe someone can pop in here with a correction to that?
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