JAL A359 at Tokyo collided with Coast Guard DH8C on runway and burst into flames
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Re: JAL A359 at Tokyo collided with Coast Guard DH8C on runway and burst into flames
#2Wow, 2 rough first 2024 days for Japan..
Re: JAL A359 at Tokyo collided with Coast Guard DH8C on runway and burst into flames
#3If this is going to be the main discussion thread, I'd recommend changing the link to a non-tabloid news article.
All passengers and crew evacuated from the Airbus, thankfully.
Re: JAL A359 at Tokyo collided with Coast Guard DH8C on runway and burst into flames
#4Definitely better links than Daily Mirror out there, avherald.com unfortunately overwhelmed, but in terms of discussion:
- Crazy how well the carbon fiber A350 held up given that it seems to have landed pretty much directly on a Dash 8 (RIP Coast Guard team). Looks like trading long term flammability for initial rigidity lived up to the design intent.
- Excellent evacuation job, especially as it looks like on some videos that the crew was unable to shut down the right engine, rendering the entire right side unusable (severed lines given the severe belly damage?) UPDATE: they actually did use the front right exit nevertheless https://x.com/tanakamaru1999/status/1742132422005981578
- Don’t have headphones with me and in a public space, but landing / takeoff clearances should be somewhere in https://archive.liveatc.net/rjtt/RJTT-Twr-TCA-Jan-02-2024-08... if someone wants to try and find them (timestamps towards end of url come in 30 minute increments).
Re: JAL A359 at Tokyo collided with Coast Guard DH8C on runway and burst into flames
#5Not sure why the link is a UK Tabloid.
Japan’s national broadcaster has a video of the moment of impact.
Impact: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20240102_302/
All ~400 airbus passengers safe.
Coastguard plane in earthquake relief efforts hit airbus (see video). 5 of 6 passengers unaccounted for.
Re: JAL A359 at Tokyo collided with Coast Guard DH8C on runway and burst into flames
#6Wow, 2 rough first 2024 days for Japan..
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Re: JAL A359 at Tokyo collided with Coast Guard DH8C on runway and burst into flames
#7I'll speculate:
this looks like textbook runway invasion where miscommunication leads to two different aircrafts being allowed on a runway at the same time.
Reminds me of LATAM 2213, which led to the very first Airbus 320 neo being written off [1].
Essentially, clearance to enter a runway has to be expressively given and confirmed in non-ubiquitous language ("Flight ABC requesting clearance to enter runway 01").
Yet LATAM incident shows how often emergency services are often unaccustomed to thorough communication (after all they do these procedures much more rarely)
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LATAM_Airlines_Per%C3%BA_Fligh...
Re: JAL A359 at Tokyo collided with Coast Guard DH8C on runway and burst into flames
#8Does this mean when the Airbus landed, there was a Coast Guard plane on the runway? Seems like the ground control had made a serious mistake.
Re: JAL A359 at Tokyo collided with Coast Guard DH8C on runway and burst into flames
#9Not sure why the link is a UK Tabloid. Japan’s national broadcaster has a video of the moment of impact. Impact: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20240102_302/ All ~400 airbus passengers safe. Coastguard plane in earthquake relief efforts hit airbus (see video). 5 of 6 passengers unaccounted for.
A longer video (still in English) at https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20240102_304/
Re: JAL A359 at Tokyo collided with Coast Guard DH8C on runway and burst into flames
#10Does this mean when the Airbus landed, there was a Coast Guard plane on the runway? Seems like the ground control had made a serious mistake.
Could be a pilot mistake as well. Aircraft entering runway without clearence has happened before.