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Re: Blueprint health protocol

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Post by drcross »

mkreis wrote: post #7

Wow, just look at the number of pills he takes every day: https://protocol.bryanjohnson.com/#step-2-supplements And then apparently the same dish, every day... definitely a very scientific approach.

I cant tell if you're being sarcastic but the protocol was developed as the result of his teams reading the latest published literature. I'm not being snarky here but if you have a problem with it, it's the result (by definition) of you not being up to date on what the corpus of science is telling us about nutrition.

Re: Blueprint health protocol

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Post by erispoe »

Shekelphile wrote: post #31
thatguysaguy wrote: post #4

I have no idea whether his stuff will work but I'm glad people are trying wacky stuff to find out.

There is a very weird lack of interest in slowing down or reversing aging in the scientific/medical community in general. To me it seems like it should be a top priority. Life is extremely short and extending our lives shouldn't be a terribly hard feat given there are plenty of biologically immortal and long lived organisms all over our planet.

Science advances one funeral at a time, as Max Planck said.

Re: Blueprint health protocol

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Post by hgomersall »

jjallen wrote: post #17
meindnoch wrote: post #15

Sounds like torture to me. And the guy doesn't look healthy at all. More like someone who's about to start chemo.

He’s thin and stays out of the sun to reduce damage to the skin. Makes sense that he looks different than most people because of these two things alone. He does say he’s hungry all of the time. Not sure if I would get used to that.

He stays out of the sun? Interesting to learn what the long term consequences of that will be.

Re: Blueprint health protocol

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Post by drcross »

sureglymop wrote: post #32

Honestly it sounds like he is putting a lot of stress on himself and I'm not sure that helps to stay young at all. He doesn't look young but at least he dresses younger which I guess is something.

There's ways to check stress levels and optimise for them, which is what he's done.

Re: Blueprint health protocol

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Post by fasterik »

JetSpiegel wrote: post #83
fasterik wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We all agree it would be bad to die at 40 if you could have lived to 60. By that logic, isn't it bad to die at 80 when you could have lived to 100? If you could do something to increase that probability, wouldn't that be a good thing? Good health also increases quality of life, independent of whether it extends lifespan. To put it another way, pre-civilization life expectancy was somewhere around 30 years. Would it h…

> To put it another way, pre-civilization life expectancy was somewhere around 30 years. You probably mean life expectancy at birth. The birth and childhood were pretty tough, but if you lived to adulthood, life expectancy was just a bit smaller.

I think the point still stands. In the Paleolithic era, life expectancy for the 60% reaching age 15 averaged 39 remaining years [1], so you could have expected to live into your mid 50s, compared to mid 80s today in developed countries [2]. That's a 30 year difference, so it's more than "a bit smaller".

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy

[2] https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/life-expectancy-at-age-15

Re: Blueprint health protocol

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Post by erispoe »

stodor89 wrote: post #28
meindnoch wrote: post #15

Sounds like torture to me. And the guy doesn't look healthy at all. More like someone who's about to start chemo.

Bryan Johnson is going all in, because (1) he wants to show what's possible and (2) he can afford it. He's dedicated his entire being to the cause. You and I don't need to. What we should do instead, is learn new and interesting stuff from his journey, and apply the 80/20 rule.

Learning is limited by the sample size of N=1.

Re: Blueprint health protocol

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Post by bmikaili »

RanTig wrote: post #87
bmikaili wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why so? A vegan diet when supplemented is an easy way to avoid potential bad consequences of animal products, such as heart disease, cancer, obesity or diabetes. The only real thing that meat-eaters do not have to supplement that vegans do is b12 (because livestock are supplemented with it) and maybe omega 3.

If the vegan diet was one of the outcomes from his experiments (where the goal is to optimize for anti-aging), I'd be fine with it. But it's a restriction he put on himself based on a ethical/philosophical motivation.

Why would he have to experiment with it? He didn’t have to experiment with exercise before starting an exercise plan.

Re: Blueprint health protocol

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Post by bmikaili »

itsoktocry wrote: post #78
bmikaili wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why so? A vegan diet when supplemented is an easy way to avoid potential bad consequences of animal products, such as heart disease, cancer, obesity or diabetes. The only real thing that meat-eaters do not have to supplement that vegans do is b12 (because livestock are supplemented with it) and maybe omega 3.

> b12 (because livestock are supplemented with it) What do you mean "supplemented"? The vitamin comes from animal sources.

Livestock is given B12 supplements. B12 only occurs naturally in soil, where the concentrations are too low for even animals to bind. Prehistoric humans probably ate more dirt and had enough of it.

This comment has a lot of sources compiled https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/7ujsaf/comment/dtlj7...

Re: Blueprint health protocol

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Post by cactusplant7374 »

drcross wrote: post #91
mkreis wrote: post #7

Wow, just look at the number of pills he takes every day: https://protocol.bryanjohnson.com/#step-2-supplements And then apparently the same dish, every day... definitely a very scientific approach.

I cant tell if you're being sarcastic but the protocol was developed as the result of his teams reading the latest published literature. I'm not being snarky here but if you have a problem with it, it's the result (by definition) of you not being up to date on what the corpus of science is telling us about nutrition.

Taking more vitamins than necessary is associated with cancer risk.

https://ascopubs.org/doi/full/10.14694/EdBook_AM.2014.34.e47...

Re: Blueprint health protocol

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Post by waihtis »

hgomersall wrote: post #93
jjallen wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He’s thin and stays out of the sun to reduce damage to the skin. Makes sense that he looks different than most people because of these two things alone. He does say he’s hungry all of the time. Not sure if I would get used to that.

He stays out of the sun? Interesting to learn what the long term consequences of that will be.

My bet is this will be reversed at some point.

I get that the metric dictating this is probably "avoid skin damage", but surely the health benefits of, say, 15 minutes of sun exposure dramatically overweighs the risk of skin cancer.

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