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DaedalOS – Desktop environment in the browser

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Previous discussions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25241123 (149 points | Nov 28, 2020 | 43 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29779753 (194 points | Jan 3, 2022 | 126 comments)

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Re: DaedalOS – Desktop environment in the browser

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Impressive and smooth, however I can't help thinking it's an effort in an opposite direction. We should be striving away from the desktop metaphor, into something built for abstracting tens of thousands of files and folder, something that relieves working memory, that adheres to our brains' spatial recognition patterns rather than offering logical views into file systems.

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Previous discussions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25241123 (149 points | Nov 28, 2020 | 43 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29779753 (194 points | Jan 3, 2022 | 126 comments)

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don't apologise to the recency police for posting something interesting of value

Re: DaedalOS – Desktop environment in the browser

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Personally, I prefer Windows 93: http://www.windows93.net/

I see your windows 93 and raise you a https://windows96.net/

Faster and snappier than Windows 11.

This is a reminder of a time when Microsoft had all A grade players.

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I'm really thinking that's the feature. Compile Linux kernel to wasm. So it can run inside a browser with a very nice performance. Write FS drivers to enable seamless caching and remote data storage, so you can shutdown your system on PC and boot from laptop. Or even some kind of hibernate mode, so you can just continue from where you left off. Write graphics drivers using WebGPU and other technologies, enabling very…

I'm looking forward to the day when I can run a browser in my browser.

No, we need to go deeper.

Inception bwaaaaaaaa

Re: DaedalOS – Desktop environment in the browser

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if you're looking for more ancient greek pun operating system names, i made a list in https://dernocua.github.io/notes/greek-operating-systems.htm... which reads in part

> TalOS the gift of HefaistOS KholOS to MinOS, KokalOS who gave DaidalOS refuge in KamikOS from MinOS, PegasOS, OrfeOS, AisculapiOS, MinotaurOS, CetOS, AgriOS, EnkeladOS, HippolytOS, SisyphOS, NessOS the son of KentaurOS who slew Herakles the lover of IolaOS and slayer of AntaiOS

sadly theseus is θησεύς, ending in an actual υς rather than the ος of the above examples, so he isn't eligible to have an operating system named after him

Re: DaedalOS – Desktop environment in the browser

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This reminds me of Berlin/Fresco. https://berlin.sourceforge.net/ I followed this project for years and it's still where I think we should be. X11 architecture with higher level primitives

You know there's a very good reason that failed, as did every one of the numerous projects named X12 and Y-Windows, and why Wayland has taken so many years to continue to fail or even displace X-Windows. None of them are dynamically extensible at runtime the way the browser is with JavaScript, or Emacs is with Lisp, or NeWS was with PostScript (which failed for economic reasons). Why not simply use a standards based…

i thought news failed because sun blundered the licensing and kept people from adopting it, not because it was too expensive to run (though it was kind of expensive to run, i don't think that's what killed it; i remember xnews being pretty usable even on a sparc ipc)

speaking of expensive to run, electron struggles to run an app in less than 4 gibibytes of ram, and it's impossible to get things to be reliably responsive in it. and the 'standards based' platform has the kind of sandboxing you need to safely run third-party apps, but it eats its children, like the pgp message format: you only get one level of sandboxing, no sandboxes inside sandboxes, so things implemented on the 'standard' platform can't actually use the sandboxing to confine apps

android surfaceflinger seems to have done a pretty thorough job of displacing x-windows in that surfaceflinger installs outnumber x-windows installs by about 100:1

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