In my experience, perfectionism is crafted post-procrastination. It probably makes no sense, but the mind often does this convoluted thing in order to protect procrastination.
Procrastination is connected to perfectionism
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Re: Procrastination is connected to perfectionism
#62The article hints at psychology and then fails to dive into it.
Perfectionism, only when intentionally and cognitively executed in an orderly fashion, is linked to extremely high consciousness and extremely high consciousness when not properly managed is highly correlated with anxiety. The slang for this is anal-retentive.
This becomes complicated because anxiety is most typically concerned with high measures of neuroticism but a person can score extremely low in neuroticism and yet still suffer symptoms of anxiety from too high of consciousness when their concerns for orderliness prevents timely accomplishment of a task. That specific set of personalities defines obsessive-compulsive disorder in contrast to anxiety in general.
The solution to this is to learn to accept and contribute a wrong outcome, as opposed to taking no action at all, which requires a tremendous amount of careful practice. The ability to accept that solution is even culturally reinforced as identified in one of the Hofstede cultural indexes: uncertainty avoidance.
Re: Procrastination is connected to perfectionism
#63> One reason why people procrastinate is perfectionism. Is it though? Or is it something nice to tell ourselves? I don’t know if there is correlation here. I have seen poeple procrastinating with no sense of details and the reverse is true too.
Seems like it. I don't think the correlation described is false.
What you're saying about people procrastinating for other reasons, is the difference between the phrase "one reason why people procrastinate is perfectionism" and the phrase "the only reason why people procrastinate is perfectionism".
As in, people can procrastinate for any of multiple reasons, and perfectionism is one of those reasons.
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#64Yeah, or maybe it's "just" ADHD. "Just" in parentheses because it's a horrible condition to have. Russel Barkley with a succinct video on "ADHD as Motivation Deficit Disorder": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR3RJU6838c
Nope, I don’t have any of the typical ADHD symptoms (inattention, hyperactivity, impulsivity — rather the opposite), but still procrastinate to problematic levels due to perfectionism.
Re: Procrastination is connected to perfectionism
#65Yeah, or maybe it's "just" ADHD. "Just" in parentheses because it's a horrible condition to have. Russel Barkley with a succinct video on "ADHD as Motivation Deficit Disorder": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR3RJU6838c
Nope, I don’t have any of the typical ADHD symptoms (inattention, hyperactivity, impulsivity — rather the opposite), but still procrastinate to problematic levels due to perfectionism.
Yes. There are various reasons to procrastinate. ADHD procrastination is more about emotional discomfort avoidance than perfectionism.
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#66Yeah, or maybe it's "just" ADHD. "Just" in parentheses because it's a horrible condition to have. Russel Barkley with a succinct video on "ADHD as Motivation Deficit Disorder": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR3RJU6838c
ADHD has totally ruined so many aspects of my life. It's a straight-up disability for me. It stops mattering how "gifted" I am when the ability to use that gift is constantly revoked whenever I find something new to use it on. It's like my brain is constantly trying to patch an exploit, like it never wants me to actually use any of my potential.
Meds helped for only a few months. Then my brain patched that exploit too. :/
Re: Procrastination is connected to perfectionism
#67The easiest antidote for procrastination is boredom.
This may not work for everyone but for me it works exceptionally. Most often the reason why you don't want to work on something is because you find it too hard, too boring, or too irrelevant. But if you force yourself to be bored for a while, you will eventually crave some mental stimulation.
And that's when you can pick up the task you have been avoiding and work on it with renewed interest and focus.
Of course, this requires some discipline and self-awareness. You have to resist the temptation of checking your phone, browsing the web, or doing anything else that distracts you from your boredom.
Maybe there is some psychological reason for it but I have found this technique to be very effective for overcoming procrastination and getting things done.
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#68“The fall is worth the climb” -Mike Tyson. I think this is kind of like, if you don't fail, you can't succeed. To be happy, fail. -Me, 2024.
It’s very possible, however, to just fail without ever succeeding, and that’s what the perfectionist worries about. The above sounds like an instance of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent.
Re: Procrastination is connected to perfectionism
#69Yeah, or maybe it's "just" ADHD. "Just" in parentheses because it's a horrible condition to have. Russel Barkley with a succinct video on "ADHD as Motivation Deficit Disorder": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR3RJU6838c
Procrastination is not a new thing. And ADHD is a pretty rare condition - just look at the diagnosis rate from country to country. The US has the highest one because doctors here are basically legal Speed drug dealers - for children.
The author of the Search Engine pod just had a two-parter about his "ADHD":
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whyd-i-take-speed-for-...
(The history of regulating Speed in the US is actually fascinating).
I could focus just fine all my life, then suddenly I couldn't. I've talked to other adults who are experiencing the same.
And it's funny how people get super torqued when you say something like this. There is a lot of room between "I have legit ADHD" and "I am addicted to my phone".
Sometimes I could not start a project at work for weeks - then I got off Twitter.
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#70Yeah, or maybe it's "just" ADHD. "Just" in parentheses because it's a horrible condition to have. Russel Barkley with a succinct video on "ADHD as Motivation Deficit Disorder": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR3RJU6838c
Nope, I don’t have any of the typical ADHD symptoms (inattention, hyperactivity, impulsivity — rather the opposite), but still procrastinate to problematic levels due to perfectionism.
The opposite of those symptoms - like hyperfocus, inability to switch tasks, decision-making inertia, etc.?