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Procrastination is connected to perfectionism

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Re: Procrastination is connected to perfectionism

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Post by odyssey7 »

diggan wrote: post #22
brainzap wrote: post #13

No advice article ever has the courage to say it: you need friends. Social support and accountability are our main pillars, we are social animals.

> Social support and accountability Reminds me of "Announcing your plans makes you less motivated to accomplish them (2009)" - https://sivers.org/zipit - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7496923 (74 points | March 30, 2014 | 21 comments)

I’ve heard about the paradox of announcing plans before. It is intriguing.

In light of the need for community, talking about plans might be seen as a way to search for ideas that could have group buy-in and become something to undertake together. Failure to move forward on those plans would reflect that the group interest just wasn’t there. The mistake would have been in assuming you would have ever pursued the goal independently, the social impulse to share could have been the hint.

Shared interests between friends can help individual interests and goals become collective ones.

Ecclesiastes: one may be overcome (by the exhaustion of going to the gym), two can defend themselves (against lapsing on their New Year’s resolution). A three-ply cord is not easily broken.

Re: Procrastination is connected to perfectionism

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Post by getlawgdon »

jokoon wrote: post #30

there's nothing wrong with procrastination doctors say people work too much, and there's an epidemic of burnout homo sapiens are not made to work and feel guilty when they don't complete tasks it's a problem of work culture and productivism, nothing else

So we are not in fact what we have made ourselves? What are we then? What are we supposed to be?

Re: Procrastination is connected to perfectionism

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Post by spintin »

The reason we fear shipping is that we know there is an absolute truth out there that nobody made any effort to find. ONLY if you ship that eternal fundamental solution have you made anything interesting.

Everything is shit, think before you act! It's better to do nothing, than to deliver more shit.

Re: Procrastination is connected to perfectionism

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Post by diggan »

spintin wrote: post #45

The reason we fear shipping is that we know there is an absolute truth out there that nobody made any effort to find. ONLY if you ship that eternal fundamental solution have you made anything interesting. Everything is shit, think before you act! It's better to do nothing, than to deliver more shit.

> It's better to do nothing, than to deliver more shit.

How are you supposed to get better at delivering anything if you won't deliver until you have something "perfect"?

Part of the process of getting better is to be shit for a while, while you figuring things out.

Common saying when making music is that probably your first 100 songs will be absolutely trash, so better get those out of the door ASAP, so you can get to the good stuff :) Practice is the only way to get better, and your output will probably suck for a while, but we all sucked at one point so it's OK.

Re: Procrastination is connected to perfectionism

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Post by diggan »

rrr_oh_man wrote: post #36
sylware wrote: post #6

As a public open source (yep, open source can be private) programmer (currently x86_64 assembly), and I am very aware of this pitfall. It is very important to move forward in code, because you cannot predict how will actually end up a complex program: you need to have all the (sane) features in to actually know. Since code is all about trade-offs, there is "no perfect". You have to be carefull at avoiding falling int…

You piqued my interest: What’s private open source?

I'm guessing it's referring to the "corporate open source" ecosystem where Google and similar companies make code public but everything else is closed. There is no collaboration, no public roadmaps, no influence given to the community and such. Not sure it's a vital distinction, for me both are as public/private as the other, but that's the only meaning I could try to extract from that...

Re: Procrastination is connected to perfectionism

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smugglerFlynn wrote: post #25

Lots of tongue in cheek comments for such a very serious issue. Please know that perfectionism is often fear-based and trauma-based. Learning to recognise the underlying fear and trauma, and working through them, will help with both perfectionism and procrastination. In my experience, there are very few quick wins, only long methodical work to get through the underlying issues. The best way to do that is with the hel…

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