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The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Post by baz00 »

LanzVonL wrote: post #114
baz00 wrote: post #84

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I think you need to get your eyes checked.

For many people a matte screen is non-negotible. In fact, no company would dream of selling a glossy screen mobile device until the iPhone proved that people would tolerate it.

You're talking rubbish. There are various grades of glossy screen and anti-glare coatings. The MBP is absolutely fine as is the Studio Display. Dell's stuff is NOT ok in contrast.

It's not about tolerating it but about the superior contrast possible and the quality of the coating, something Apple get spot on.

Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Post by baz00 »

LanzVonL wrote: post #126
smabie wrote: post #124

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Who are these people? I don't think most people even know the difference between a matte vs glossy screen much less even care.

Artists, programmers, normal people. All kinds of people. Matte screen option was simply taken away, leaving these people with the choice of sticking to an old computer or monitor, or upgrading. I for one am content to keep my old laptop with its nice screen and keyboard, and do any heavy lifting on a different computer. It's quite easy - ssh, x11, VNC, etc.

Artists, photographers etc want colour accuracy and contrast, which is better on a glossy display (with anti glare coating).

As your entire workload is apparently developer based, knock yourself out with a matte screen but I don't want one as I do both that side of things and the art side of things...

Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Post by ryzvonusef »

ahartmetz wrote: post #76
ryzvonusef wrote: post #66

oh good heavens, would you look at the time, it's time for the monthly thinkpad circletrek. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38257284#38262457 I feel that any laptop that doesn't have at least a thunderbolt port is obsolete in this day and age. It's not the port itself, it's just a handy way for me to determine a cut-off for when a laptop is too old, green m&m style. If it doesn't have a thunderbolt port, it's pr…

AMD based laptops usually don't have Thunderbolt. If you don't really need the port, it would be a mistake to avoid these laptops.

Ah, good point, I guess I need a better metric to quickly judge 2nd hand laptops.

Maybe 1080p screens? if it has a 1366x768 panel, it needs to burn in a fire.

Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Post by mgerullis »

threatofrain wrote: post #105
baz00 wrote: post #48

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I blame JavaScript and the deficient culture of insanity around it. The only things that are slow on any of my computers are honking great stacks of shit built on top of browsers with JavaScript. Sometimes I have three different fucking browser engines running these stacks of shit.

I blame the native world for not finding easy ways to build better alternatives. If, for example, C++ people demonstrated that they could write the same software with more ease and speed, then it would've been a no-brainer for all businesses and open source projects in the world.

Thank you.

Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Post by happymellon »

threatofrain wrote: post #105
baz00 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I blame JavaScript and the deficient culture of insanity around it. The only things that are slow on any of my computers are honking great stacks of shit built on top of browsers with JavaScript. Sometimes I have three different fucking browser engines running these stacks of shit.

I blame the native world for not finding easy ways to build better alternatives. If, for example, C++ people demonstrated that they could write the same software with more ease and speed, then it would've been a no-brainer for all businesses and open source projects in the world.

I'm not sure about that.

Writing a Python application isn't that hard, but your frontend dev will more than likely be experienced in JS than Python+QT and push for that.

Vala could have been great as a way of making C more accessible, shame it didnt really pick up.

Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Post by [deleted] »

happymellon wrote: post #145
threatofrain wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I blame the native world for not finding easy ways to build better alternatives. If, for example, C++ people demonstrated that they could write the same software with more ease and speed, then it would've been a no-brainer for all businesses and open source projects in the world.

I'm not sure about that. Writing a Python application isn't that hard, but your frontend dev will more than likely be experienced in JS than Python+QT and push for that. Vala could have been great as a way of making C more accessible, shame it didnt really pick up.

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Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Post by LanzVonL »

baz00 wrote: post #142
LanzVonL wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Artists, programmers, normal people. All kinds of people. Matte screen option was simply taken away, leaving these people with the choice of sticking to an old computer or monitor, or upgrading. I for one am content to keep my old laptop with its nice screen and keyboard, and do any heavy lifting on a different computer. It's quite easy - ssh, x11, VNC, etc.

Artists, photographers etc want colour accuracy and contrast, which is better on a glossy display (with anti glare coating). As your entire workload is apparently developer based, knock yourself out with a matte screen but I don't want one as I do both that side of things and the art side of things...

How would an artist not want a matte screen? You don't have an option either way. It's not about want, you simply can't obtain one in a laptop these days.

Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Post by LanzVonL »

baz00 wrote: post #141
LanzVonL wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For many people a matte screen is non-negotible. In fact, no company would dream of selling a glossy screen mobile device until the iPhone proved that people would tolerate it.

You're talking rubbish. There are various grades of glossy screen and anti-glare coatings. The MBP is absolutely fine as is the Studio Display. Dell's stuff is NOT ok in contrast. It's not about tolerating it but about the superior contrast possible and the quality of the coating, something Apple get spot on.

They're not "absolutely fine," they're horrid. It's garbage.
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