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Re: Living The American Dream

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One type of immigration (aka Student/Skilled migration) is based on points. The rest are a mixture of bribery, and racism. (See parent-contributory, english requirements, etc). All of the above only get you Permanent residency (You can't vote, or receive non-health related welfare). Once you can speak and read english fluently you can apply for citizenship. Hardly a 'points based system'.

Granted; but skilled migration is still an excellent pathway to Australian citizenship via permanent residency if you've got desirable skills. That said, Australians in turn have access to the E-3 visa in the USA, which is a pretty sweet ticket.

> skilled migration is still an excellent pathway to Australian citizenship via permanent residency if you've got desirable skills.

and fluency in English.

Re: Living The American Dream

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post #7

This seems like a good example of how screwed up immigration policies are in this country. We should be running out to other countries and actively recruiting people like her to immigrate here. She's smart, she's hard-working, and she's obviously incredibly motivated. But despite all this, the process of even getting a green card took a ridiculously long time. I really don't understand people knee jerk stance against…

Serious question: is there a single system in the country at any level of government that works as it is intended? Can someone name a single one?

My mother recently "enlightened" me as to how backwards medication pricing is and how its shouldn't be legal what medical companies are doing (its a long, unethical, story). I retorted with: We have people who don't even know how the internet works deciding how to regulate it, and yet we have these very same people regulating countless number of other industries that they don't understand. A great many senators and congressmen don't even read what they vote on, never mind understand what they vote on (ndaa anyone?).

So getting back to the topic at hand. How is it that "we" can read this story and be disgusted. The men in power in our country have spent the last few decades (imo, perhaps longer) making our country worse and have deluded themselves in to thinking they have made it better. I am annoyed with them, but I am really annoyed with the people who know what is broken and instead of taking the initiative, sit back and talk about it. They sit back and they talk up a storm about how crooked companies are and this that and the other thing. And oh yeah, its racism , or its this or that.

And you know what? Its not even worth it to point any of this out. In the off chance you actually agree with anything I have said, your an American, a docile consumer. You will go find some company, some NPO and throw money at it. Problem solved, case closed, you accomplished your civic duty for the day. Maybe you will go the extra mile and share with your facebook friends some pointless meme that suggests they share with their friends. What a joke. If our country's forefathers saw what has become of their great nation, they would writhe in their graves. In all likelihood, you don't agree with anything I have said, you are content with people telling you what to think and what to buy. You believe this country is great and are content letting the "little" imperfections of our government programs go ignored or worse, broken further.

But yeah, totally agree. Let me know when you share a "lets fix immigration" meme on facebook so I can share it with my friends and we can fix kono 2012, -I mean whatever really important thing we were talking about. Hey, did you see my new car. I know, its banging right.

Re: Living The American Dream

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The "push" factors for emigration are probably strong in many non-democracies, but it's it possible that the "pull" factors for immigration could be weakened by the internet?

Some people don't seen to care about moving to the US to live "the American dream" or whatever.

Re: Living The American Dream

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Granted; but skilled migration is still an excellent pathway to Australian citizenship via permanent residency if you've got desirable skills. That said, Australians in turn have access to the E-3 visa in the USA, which is a pretty sweet ticket.

> skilled migration is still an excellent pathway to Australian citizenship via permanent residency if you've got desirable skills. and fluency in English.

Of course. Do you really think that it is unreasonable to expect citizens of a democracy to be able to speak the language fluently? I'm an Australian living in France, and I have to demonstrate fluency in French, and I don't see this as unreasonable. If you have been living in a country long enough to be applying for citizenship, you damn well ought to be able to speak the language - if you can't it is because you have made no attempt to integrate into your host community, and I fully get a country not wanting to embrace you in that case.

Re: Living The American Dream

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post #25

Seems to me that from being an immigrant nation the US has become the Western country that is the hardest to immigrate to.

Yes, I'm British and I would love to be able to easily immigrate to the US. I know so many others who would as well - but it requires you to find a US company willing to sponsor you etc which makes it a real hassle

Re: Living The American Dream

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post #13
post #7

This seems like a good example of how screwed up immigration policies are in this country. We should be running out to other countries and actively recruiting people like her to immigrate here. She's smart, she's hard-working, and she's obviously incredibly motivated. But despite all this, the process of even getting a green card took a ridiculously long time. I really don't understand people knee jerk stance against…

"She's obviously incredibly motivated." I first met Yasmine at StartupWeekend Baltimore. She'd come down from Philly to try and recruit help for her project. She'd been working on an existing startup already, and her idea was an extension of that (but new, so as to fit within the constraints of SW). Not finding a lot of help, she sat in a corner, by herself, for what appeared to be the entire weekend, plugging away.…

> In short, for all the talk about 'not enough women in tech', all I can say is that they're out there, and they're awesome. Hell, half the men I know in tech can't get as much as she does.

Your comment was excellent until you took the "My anecdote refutes data!" route.

Re: Living The American Dream

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Yasmine, I'm so glad you published this story.

It's incredibly disheartening when anyone who lives in the United States believes that they are poor. Too many people born with the privilege of being American citizens choose to blame their life on outside circumstances, when the reality is they've been given the best outside circumstances anyone could ask for. Many people want to redefine the American dream as some kind of struggle for subsistence, but you've perfectly exemplified the true American dream: if you're willing to set goals and work your ass off, then you can choose what kind of life you will live.

Re: Living The American Dream

#38
Very interesting story - hard to comprehend how frustrating it must be having lived somewhere most of your life without being formally "accepted".

"I can speak out against the government, if need be, without fear of being prosecuted, imprisoned, or killed".

Probably pays not to take that sentiment too far however. This is still the USA we're talking about.

Re: Living The American Dream

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post #32
post #7

This seems like a good example of how screwed up immigration policies are in this country. We should be running out to other countries and actively recruiting people like her to immigrate here. She's smart, she's hard-working, and she's obviously incredibly motivated. But despite all this, the process of even getting a green card took a ridiculously long time. I really don't understand people knee jerk stance against…

Serious question: is there a single system in the country at any level of government that works as it is intended? Can someone name a single one? My mother recently "enlightened" me as to how backwards medication pricing is and how its shouldn't be legal what medical companies are doing (its a long, unethical, story). I retorted with: We have people who don't even know how the internet works deciding how to regulate…

This is the flamebaitiest flamebait I have ever seen, even accounting for the topic. It is insanely rude and unproductive. I hope it gets flagged into oblivion.

To the author: Respect your fucking readers or don't click "post." Your mother said health care pricing is screwed? Explain and teach me something or don't throw it out there. You have some godawful stereotype of people who complain about the government? Back it up with facts or get the fuck out. Don't feed me some "you are" and "you will" morality play when you invented your hypothetical audience out of thin air. Don't write three paragraphs about your straw man moron without an iota of any actual information besides rambling. Give me a break.

Re: Living The American Dream

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A really cool chart on legal immigration into the United States for anyone interested in how hard it really is: http://i.imgur.com/yxTFW.jpg (posted here a few days ago, not sure who posted it though so no credit unfortunately)

http://reason.org/files/a87d1550853898a9b306ef458f116079.pdf
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