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The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Post by dr_kiszonka »

mattpallissard wrote: post #109
jpgvm wrote: post #100

What I really want is a modern laptop with the old style Thinkpad aesthetics and pragmatisms. i.e ports, replaceable components, magnesium alloy chassis with plastic and rubber armor (i.e tanky AF), good keyboard with real travel, hot swap batteries, 3.5mm jack, card readers, OOTB Linux support, hw kill switches for radios, webcams and mic. Then for modernisation: 4k OLED, USB-C charging + docking, actually decent we…

Oh, I dunno. I've been using think pads for a many years. I've had a few work issued dell xps's along the way too. I'm currently running a P14s, and while I have a few minor gripes around the fan and thermals overall I'm pretty pleased. * 2xTB4, HDMI, 2xusb3, 3.5mm jack, I could have opted for a card reader if I still used PIV/CAC for Kerberos but I carry a yubikey these days * I prefer the newer Thinkpad keyboards,…

The P series is pretty great if you prioritize connectivity and other specs over size. I loved my P50 until I broke it. BTW, I strongly recommend getting as many years of Premier Care as one can afford. While the quality of Thinkpads has deteriorated over the years, their Premier Care is still very good.

Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Post by znpy »

accrual wrote: post #102

I'd argue the X230 (basically an X220 refresh) is slightly better. * One generation newer CPU (3rd gen, Ivy Bridge, die shrink) * Additional USB 3.0 port * Optional backlit keyboard Both are solid laptops. I bought my X230 in 2016 for about $400USD and with how much I've used it, it has paid for itself. Nearly 8 years of solid service. I "upgraded" mine slightly: * USB-C pigtail adapter with tiny 65W GaN charger * US…

The x220 had the usb3 port, just only on models with the i7 processor

Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Post by znpy »

phil21 wrote: post #92
jll29 wrote: post #87

> The X220 (like most of Lenovo's older X/T models) is built like a tank. Although the inner pieces are sourced from mostly plastic, the device is still better equipped to handle drops and mishandling compared to that of more fragile devices (such as the MacBook Air or Framework). The poster is right, I dropped both an X220 and a MacBookAir (from similarly high desks), and the ThinkPad had no scratch despite being pl…

I was a 100% Thinkpad fanboy up until the T410S finally pissed me off enough with battery life and keyboard changes to move to Apple. The T series was built like a tank - a WWII era tank that could take a beating, have bits and pieces crack and break, but chug along until you could get the (cheap!) replacement part shipped. I have a stack of T60 series laptops I think I could keep going for another 50 years just by r…

Had a second hand thinkpad t42 in high school, loved that machine with that cool 1400x1050

Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Post by smabie »

LanzVonL wrote: post #114
baz00 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you need to get your eyes checked.

For many people a matte screen is non-negotible. In fact, no company would dream of selling a glossy screen mobile device until the iPhone proved that people would tolerate it.

Who are these people? I don't think most people even know the difference between a matte vs glossy screen much less even care.

Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Post by znpy »

The X220 was so easily repairable that when i had one in university i would routinely take out the keyboard and wash it with dish soap in the kitchen sink.

The ThinkPad X220 will always have a dear place in my heart.

Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Post by LanzVonL »

smabie wrote: post #124
LanzVonL wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For many people a matte screen is non-negotible. In fact, no company would dream of selling a glossy screen mobile device until the iPhone proved that people would tolerate it.

Who are these people? I don't think most people even know the difference between a matte vs glossy screen much less even care.

Artists, programmers, normal people. All kinds of people.

Matte screen option was simply taken away, leaving these people with the choice of sticking to an old computer or monitor, or upgrading. I for one am content to keep my old laptop with its nice screen and keyboard, and do any heavy lifting on a different computer. It's quite easy - ssh, x11, VNC, etc.

Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Post by SHY_TUCKER »

ghaff wrote: post #64
KennyBlanken wrote: post #44

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US$1400 plus ram, plus ssd, plus battery for... ...a bulky, heavy 13" laptop with a horrendously noisy fan, an outdated processor, no bluetooth, no camera when everything is done over video, shitty speakers, shitty 18080p 13" TN 4:3 screen, 6 hours of battery life vs 12-18 in current laptops, and so on. Fool, money, etc.

I don’t think your last line is called for. That said, I would hope no one would read this article and think an x220 is actually a good computer for most modern uses.

I use my X220 i7 as my daily carry laptop when I am away from my home office, and it is lovely. I have a Windows Drive, Linux Drive, I run all kinds of software. I also have a big new 16" Thinkpad and I am almost never tempted to grab it. The X220 keyboard is so much better than any modern laptop keyboard that it would be funny, if it wasn't so sad. Apple came out with the "Chiclet" keyboard and Lenovo literally flushed the Thinkpad brand down the toilet.

Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Post by AstroJetson »

phil21 wrote: post #92
jll29 wrote: post #87

> The X220 (like most of Lenovo's older X/T models) is built like a tank. Although the inner pieces are sourced from mostly plastic, the device is still better equipped to handle drops and mishandling compared to that of more fragile devices (such as the MacBook Air or Framework). The poster is right, I dropped both an X220 and a MacBookAir (from similarly high desks), and the ThinkPad had no scratch despite being pl…

I was a 100% Thinkpad fanboy up until the T410S finally pissed me off enough with battery life and keyboard changes to move to Apple. The T series was built like a tank - a WWII era tank that could take a beating, have bits and pieces crack and break, but chug along until you could get the (cheap!) replacement part shipped. I have a stack of T60 series laptops I think I could keep going for another 50 years just by r…

I also have a stack of T60's around. I find what happens the most is the right hinge point breaks. Good luck with yours!

Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Post by f1refly »

josephcsible wrote: post #95
chpatrick wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can get a USB-C to classic laptop adapter for a few dollars on AliExpress.

Such adapters are a dangerous violation of the USB spec.

Won't those adapters just say "I am a PD client please give me 20V"? I fail to see how that is a violation of the specification.
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