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The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Like the author, I've found the perfect old ThinkPad for me and it works brilliantly. I have a nice efficient GNU/Linux install, all my local software runs smoothly and I've used it for my day job for 9 years. But the damn worldwide web keeps marching on their mission to make the most bloated software in the universe. I should be able to keep using the machine forever with unchanged software, but the web demands more…

This is why I have the quad-core T520. It runs nice and cool, and doesn't slow down even with the horrible code that comprises the "modern web."

Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

#113

Thinkpadism is really just "things used to be better", as evidenced by the models then-decried by thinkpadders as low quality flexing plastic garbage being hailed as "built like a tank" today, simply because it's old now. Just wait, eventually the X230 and X240 will be called "some of the greatest thinkpads ever made, built like tanks".

Nobody will want those, half the point is the real, actual keyboard.

Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Better screen I disagree. I own two M2 MB pros: 14" and 16" and a T14 gen2 with a 4K display. T4 display is definitely better, for starter it's matte. Only place where MB shines is battery life. Even track-pads on newer Lenovos are decent.

I think you need to get your eyes checked.

For many people a matte screen is non-negotible. In fact, no company would dream of selling a glossy screen mobile device until the iPhone proved that people would tolerate it.

Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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man are articles like this tedious, even scrolling by them on the front page of HN annoys me and reminds me how irritating and loudmouthed so many people in this industry are.

But you don't disagree with the central claim that the X200 is the best laptop in the world, just that the idea invokes a peevish internal emotional state?

Imagine there is some company making laptops and half the power nerds out there would rather run something 10+ years old. And then, further imagine that you could capture this entire market, if you simply slapped some ports, a good keyboard, and a Trackpoint onto your laptop line, but instead you hire people to moan and bellyache when Thinkpads come up. Go look at the Thinkpad Reddit - literally half the comments are people recommending some new piece of shit craptop with a chicklet keyboard. That's not organic.

Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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What I really want is a modern laptop with the old style Thinkpad aesthetics and pragmatisms. i.e ports, replaceable components, magnesium alloy chassis with plastic and rubber armor (i.e tanky AF), good keyboard with real travel, hot swap batteries, 3.5mm jack, card readers, OOTB Linux support, hw kill switches for radios, webcams and mic. Then for modernisation: 4k OLED, USB-C charging + docking, actually decent we…

i just bit the stochastic bullet and got an x2100 (actually, two because i wasn't sure about the build quality).

it's everything you (and i) want from a laptop -- a reasonably modern (10th gen intel; sadly there probably won't be a more modern one) laptop in an x200 shell (i even ordered a touchpadless palm rest).

it's been my main driver for half a year now without any issues.

Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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Author really needs to try the M2 MacBook Air. It's a masterstroke. And I've used the classic ThinkPads.

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Try nuance sometimes, it might help. I love the keyboard on my MBP. You have a right to not like them, but they’re not « horribly shit »

Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop

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What I really want is a modern laptop with the old style Thinkpad aesthetics and pragmatisms. i.e ports, replaceable components, magnesium alloy chassis with plastic and rubber armor (i.e tanky AF), good keyboard with real travel, hot swap batteries, 3.5mm jack, card readers, OOTB Linux support, hw kill switches for radios, webcams and mic. Then for modernisation: 4k OLED, USB-C charging + docking, actually decent we…

I do wish that Framework had either expanded into alternative 13" laptop case designs compatible with their hardware or could find a partner who would, before launching a second line of laptops.

I know people have upgraded[1] or put a FW13 mainboard in an old T-series chassis before,[2] but several of those features (hw cam/mic kill switches, field repairability, 3.5mm jack, USB-C PD, tall 4K display, Linux support) are already in a Framework, and the rest could feasibly be implemented in a modern case with appropriate accommodations for FW hardware built in.

1: https://kitsunyan.github.io/blog/frankenpad-story.html

2: https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/145f3qc/i_got_the...

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