On a side note: would it kill the author of the site to use a stylesheet?
Compare Google, Bing, Marginalia, Kagi, Mwmbl, and ChatGPT
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Re: Compare Google, Bing, Marginalia, Kagi, Mwmbl, and ChatGPT
#322I reckon these days search is pretty difficult and everyone knows how to game it. I recommend using a search engine that lets you effectively change which sites are shown. You can do this with Kagi, or with Google's Programmable Search Engines - I'm sure there are more too. In particular I block Youtube, not because they aren't sometimes correct, but because I don't want videos polluting the regular results - it just…
> Though I do sympathize with folks who reminisce about 2008 Google Search results, there were probably orders of magnitude less content out there and a complete ignorance to how valuable your place is on your business and thus no SEO. That was a decade after Google was created and people certainly understood SEO and Google was constantly updating its algorithm to punish people who were trying to game the algorithm.…
Re: Compare Google, Bing, Marginalia, Kagi, Mwmbl, and ChatGPT
#323Try uBlacklist, it's like uBlock, but for search results. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublacklist/ https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ublacklist/pncfbmia... You can sync the settings and your personal blocklist to either Dropbox or Google Drive. It also has the ability to subscribe to blocklists. Mind, you need to manually turn on search engines and subscribe to lists. The uBlacklist subscript…
Re: Compare Google, Bing, Marginalia, Kagi, Mwmbl, and ChatGPT
#324Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did you click either of those links? Both seem to do the job of downloading a youtube link to mp4 for free.
Did you click either of those links? They are not YouTube video downloaders, they just link to another downloader. There is nowhere on those links to even put a YouTube URL. Are you seriously suggesting that a website with the following "About us" with only a link to another YouTube video downloader is itself a good YouTube video downloader? > Good Samaritan Support Action is to reawaken the Body of Christ to receivi…
Ideal? No. But it does the trick.
Re: Compare Google, Bing, Marginalia, Kagi, Mwmbl, and ChatGPT
#325What always confuses me about the „search has gotten so bad“ mentality is that it is often based on anecdotal evidence at best, and anecdotal recollection at worst. Like, sure, I have the impression that search got worse over the last years, but .. has it really? How could you tell? And, honestly, this should be a verifiable claim; you can just try the top N search terms from Google trends or whatever and see how the…
I can't speak for anybody else, just trying to find stuff online, not writing a treatise about it or writing my own engine to outcompete Google. It's been asked many times here over the years and the answer was always explanations, never solutions.
Shittification does not happen overnight, but along many years. It started with Google deciding that some search terms weren't so popular: "did you mean...?" (forcing a second click to do what you intended to do in the first place) and went downhill when qualifiers to override that crap got ignored.
For me enough was enough when I realized that a simple query with three words, chosen carefully to point to the desired page, gave thousands of results, none of them relevant. YMMV.
Re: Compare Google, Bing, Marginalia, Kagi, Mwmbl, and ChatGPT
#326Searx and Yandex.
Specifically… if I need something even slightly “gray”, Yandex is the only option anymore. Torrent search on google et al is just awful.
Re: Compare Google, Bing, Marginalia, Kagi, Mwmbl, and ChatGPT
#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think this is a good illustration of my frustration with this discussion: I don't think search has gotten bad, I think the web has gotten bad. It's weird to even conceptualize it as a big graph of useful hypertext documents. That's just wikipedia. The broader web is this much noisier and dubious thing now. That's bad for google though! Their model is very much predicated on the web having a lot of signal that they…
But there's still plenty of signal. It isn't as if there are no working YouTube downloaders, or factually correct explanations of how transistors work. It's just that search engines don't know how to (or don't care enough about) disambiguating these good results from the mountains of spam or malware.
Imagine Google were like a water filter you install on your kitchen faucet to filter out unwanted chemicals from your drinking water. If as the years progress your municipal tap water starts to contain a higher baseline of unwanted chemicals, and as a result the filter begins to let through more chemicals than it did before, you'd consider your filter pretty cruddy for its use case. At the bare minimum you'd call it outdated. That is what is happening to Google search
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#328why
Re: Compare Google, Bing, Marginalia, Kagi, Mwmbl, and ChatGPT
#329Earlier quoted context omitted.
it's easy: just append command line to the query like you would append android app if you wanted and android app
That is a user POV solution, speaking from the search engine POV.
But can the search engine mind-read by assuming Windows users don’t want to use a command-line utility?
Re: Compare Google, Bing, Marginalia, Kagi, Mwmbl, and ChatGPT
#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the point he's trying to make that the search results page from the mainstream search engines are a minefield of scams that a regular person would have difficulty navigating safely. If he was looking at relevance, yours would be a solid point, but since most of the emphasis is on harm, a smaller sample works. Like "we found used needles in 3 out of 5 playgrounds" doesn't typically garner requests for p-values…
I think this is a good illustration of my frustration with this discussion: I don't think search has gotten bad, I think the web has gotten bad. It's weird to even conceptualize it as a big graph of useful hypertext documents. That's just wikipedia. The broader web is this much noisier and dubious thing now. That's bad for google though! Their model is very much predicated on the web having a lot of signal that they…