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Well, they run a *nix out of the box :)
Actually you can use the U there. It is Unix! https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/brand3700.htm
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The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop
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Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop
#22Thinkpadism is really just "things used to be better", as evidenced by the models then-decried by thinkpadders as low quality flexing plastic garbage being hailed as "built like a tank" today, simply because it's old now. Just wait, eventually the X230 and X240 will be called "some of the greatest thinkpads ever made, built like tanks".
The only problem with that eventual comparison is... you have to start comparing things to the early unibody MacBook Pros.
Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop
#23Was. Despite owning one, I'd rather use my 14" M1 MBP thanks. Hell if I had to have a PC I've got a much much nicer Lenovo T14 gen 3 here! For the MBP in comparison: Better screen, performance, battery life, OS that actually mostly works, connectivity, sound. The keyboard isn't that bad either... As for ports, I don't need 'em. Last thing I want to do is drag a fucking drunken octopus around with me. Even as a ThinkP…
Call it Stockholm syndrome but IMO modern MacBooks have some of the nicest laptop keyboards around. And I'm the kind of guy who uses a custom mechanical keyboard at his desk and turns his nose up at Cherry MX switches.
What switches do you prefer instead?
(I currently use Cherry MX browns, interested to learn what's better since I thought non-cherry switches were bootleggy)
Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop
#24Was. Despite owning one, I'd rather use my 14" M1 MBP thanks. Hell if I had to have a PC I've got a much much nicer Lenovo T14 gen 3 here! For the MBP in comparison: Better screen, performance, battery life, OS that actually mostly works, connectivity, sound. The keyboard isn't that bad either... As for ports, I don't need 'em. Last thing I want to do is drag a fucking drunken octopus around with me. Even as a ThinkP…
Call it Stockholm syndrome but IMO modern MacBooks have some of the nicest laptop keyboards around. And I'm the kind of guy who uses a custom mechanical keyboard at his desk and turns his nose up at Cherry MX switches.
Eh, Cherry switches are great. I had lubed Holy Pandas and sold them to switch back to MX browns. Genuinely a much better switch for mixed usage scenarios. I can't help but be suspicious when people are against Cherry switches, because often it is just Reddit cult/meme nonsense rather than from actual usage.
Honestly the Macbook keyboard for me is just as bad as every other laptop. Thinkpads or XPS are the exact same mediocre experience you get from the the MBP.
Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop
#25I have a few X220s and I really love them.
I would never say they could be my daily driver or come close to the capabilities of today’s machines.
But for me they really have a place. For hobby and random uses they are great. For a machine to hook up to various amateur radio equipment or some arduino gizmo or to try out that random Linux distro or hobby/toy OS… In this kind of role this machine absolutely rocks.
Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop
#26At that time I enjoyed my X220. To be sincere, the form-factor and practicality moving from home to work and having the dock. Then the XPS 13 was more perfect for me because I could attach three external monitors and have power just via a single Thunderbolt cable (no more custom docks). The crux for all of these was the battery daily duration and replacement after a few years. In that context the MacBook Airs excel at a point that more expensive and powerful Apple notebooks such as the MacBook Pro cannot sustain a "marathon" without a charger. The issue with the Airs is that you cannot currently connect three external monitors (without doing very hacky things), but this is just a question of time. Also, this obsession from Apple about not having touch screens in notebooks because they also sell iPads is disturbing.
Finally, an XPS 13 with good battery support (assuming ARM) and good Linux power handling will, probably, be the best notebook available. (would love if they remove the XPS 13 fan and there are more non-moving part notebooks)
Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop
#27Nothing will ever beat the experience of my old IBM T43. The keyboard, the hardware kill switches for various things, the ports, the removal battery. Most of all I miss the keyboard, I miss it every day.
Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop
#28Was. Despite owning one, I'd rather use my 14" M1 MBP thanks. Hell if I had to have a PC I've got a much much nicer Lenovo T14 gen 3 here! For the MBP in comparison: Better screen, performance, battery life, OS that actually mostly works, connectivity, sound. The keyboard isn't that bad either... As for ports, I don't need 'em. Last thing I want to do is drag a fucking drunken octopus around with me. Even as a ThinkP…
Call it Stockholm syndrome but IMO modern MacBooks have some of the nicest laptop keyboards around. And I'm the kind of guy who uses a custom mechanical keyboard at his desk and turns his nose up at Cherry MX switches.
Fanboy syndrome :P
Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop
#29Thinkpadism is really just "things used to be better", as evidenced by the models then-decried by thinkpadders as low quality flexing plastic garbage being hailed as "built like a tank" today, simply because it's old now. Just wait, eventually the X230 and X240 will be called "some of the greatest thinkpads ever made, built like tanks".
I have an X240, I don't think I'll ever be able to love it as a true ThinkPad when Lenovo came up with that abominable trackpoint without physical buttons.
My current gen P14s has awful keyboard keys. There's barely any travel whatsoever so while I agree with your premise, things really did used to be better...
Hot swappable batteries on the X240 was quite the rush
Re: The X220 ThinkPad is the best laptop
#30Nothing will ever beat the experience of my old IBM T43. The keyboard, the hardware kill switches for various things, the ports, the removal battery. Most of all I miss the keyboard, I miss it every day.
Hold on, let me turn on my Thinklight...
Team Ultrabay, represent.