Live data from Hacker News

Maersk ship hit by missile in the Red Sea

gcaptain.com

81–90 of 500 posts

Re: Maersk ship hit by missile in the Red Sea

#81

How much longer can this go on? It seems like there are so many parties whose economic interests all align that this would just be dealt with swiftly and decisively. Am I just naive? Is there no reasonably straightforward way to stop the Houthis? Wouldn't much of Europe, Saudi Arabia and others be very interested in ending this as quickly as possible?

Solution: force a ceasefire on Israel. If that doesn’t stop the attacks then think about escalating.

Re: Maersk ship hit by missile in the Red Sea

#82

How much longer can this go on? It seems like there are so many parties whose economic interests all align that this would just be dealt with swiftly and decisively. Am I just naive? Is there no reasonably straightforward way to stop the Houthis? Wouldn't much of Europe, Saudi Arabia and others be very interested in ending this as quickly as possible?

From what I understand, and I could be very wrong, the fear is that directly attacking the Houthis will be seen as an escalation by Iran. The west doesn't want to get mired in yet another war in the Middle East, so instead they've adopted a defensive posture around their shipping lanes with Prosperity Guardian. This is also why Saudi Arabia's own navy vessels are conspicuously absent from the operation, despite the H…

My understanding is that the Saudi do not participate also because they do not want to be seen as Israel supporters.

Re: Maersk ship hit by missile in the Red Sea

#83
This is gonna seem sort of like an off-topic comment but once we have free, unlimited, clean energy that can’t be weaponized into things like dirty bombs, a lot of these wars will simply disappear. Yes, this is a pie in the sky dream probably another 250 years away at minimum, but think about it: Don’t have carrots? Build a greenhouse and turn the lights on all day/night. Don’t have water? Condense it from the air or desalinate it.

Re: Maersk ship hit by missile in the Red Sea

#84
The Bab-el-Mandeb has tons of ships in it, and as far as I know the only ones Ansar Allah have attacked are the ones who have ignored their very clear criteria.

It’s incredible to watch in near-real-time how hollowed out the US’s ability to project its will has become. They announced Operation Prosperity Guardian, and within days it seemed to collapse. Looks like there aren’t many folks signing up to be vassal states these days.

Re: Maersk ship hit by missile in the Red Sea

#85
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like something taken from Team America: World Police or Command & Conquer: Generals.

Except this is real life and not a movie. They’re not cartoon villains. They’re actual real life villains.

The Houthi movement really strengthened after the US invasion of Iraq, so yeah the real villains who destabilized the shit out of the Middle East?

Re: Maersk ship hit by missile in the Red Sea

#86
post #19

Once again we see "blowback" in action. Here's the cycle: 1. A major power backs a side in an internal struggle for their own end. If necessary, a conflict is manufactured by propping up rebels, a coup, etc; 2. The other side, which tends to be the internally popular side, resists. Because of that popular support, they can survive, thrive and grow; 3. Insurgencies are incredibly effective. Counter-insurgencies are in…

Who is supplying them? Where do they get the money to buy all the weapons?

Re: Maersk ship hit by missile in the Red Sea

#87
post #19

Once again we see "blowback" in action. Here's the cycle: 1. A major power backs a side in an internal struggle for their own end. If necessary, a conflict is manufactured by propping up rebels, a coup, etc; 2. The other side, which tends to be the internally popular side, resists. Because of that popular support, they can survive, thrive and grow; 3. Insurgencies are incredibly effective. Counter-insurgencies are in…

[deleted]

Re: Maersk ship hit by missile in the Red Sea

#88
post #4

Something I'm unsure about is what does and doesn't trigger wars. Russian jets downed a US drone over the black sea in March 2023, I thought for sure there'd be a commensurate US military response. But there didn't appear to be one. Was it because no human was aboard the drone (so no response was justified), from fear or escalation, or something else? In any case, if a large cargo ship were sunk, would the US or othe…

US was provoked to continue sending massive amounts of weapons to Ukraine. The drone was just part of a much bigger equation.

Re: Maersk ship hit by missile in the Red Sea

#89
post #4

Something I'm unsure about is what does and doesn't trigger wars. Russian jets downed a US drone over the black sea in March 2023, I thought for sure there'd be a commensurate US military response. But there didn't appear to be one. Was it because no human was aboard the drone (so no response was justified), from fear or escalation, or something else? In any case, if a large cargo ship were sunk, would the US or othe…

I'm curious how many cargo ships does the US have?

Re: Maersk ship hit by missile in the Red Sea

#90
post #89
post #4

Something I'm unsure about is what does and doesn't trigger wars. Russian jets downed a US drone over the black sea in March 2023, I thought for sure there'd be a commensurate US military response. But there didn't appear to be one. Was it because no human was aboard the drone (so no response was justified), from fear or escalation, or something else? In any case, if a large cargo ship were sunk, would the US or othe…

I'm curious how many cargo ships does the US have?

What's the question?

Directly majority owned by US companies (regardless of flag of convenience)?

Cargo ships flying a US flag?

Any ships with any percentage of US ownership?

Post reply on HN