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Re: Maersk ship hit by missile in the Red Sea

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What would a military response look like? I am not an expert in this area, but it seems to me if it got really bad, the US might send commandos to coordinate air strikes.

The military response would look like air strikes either from carrier or Gulf bases. No commmandos required, drones have replaced them.

Yemen is backed by Iran and has some tech capable of striking US ships. US is probably eager to start another proxy war but not right now

Re: Maersk ship hit by missile in the Red Sea

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Something I'm unsure about is what does and doesn't trigger wars. Russian jets downed a US drone over the black sea in March 2023, I thought for sure there'd be a commensurate US military response. But there didn't appear to be one. Was it because no human was aboard the drone (so no response was justified), from fear or escalation, or something else? In any case, if a large cargo ship were sunk, would the US or othe…

It's time to read some Clausewitz. That book outlines the philosophy of how most western states think about war. The short version I would say is that war is a tool of politics, so if there is no political goal, there will be no war, regardless of how bad the supposed Causus Belli is.

Shooting down a drone usually doesn't do it partly because of the political implications: it would be deeply unpopular to put "boots on the ground" over a shot-down drone.

Re: Maersk ship hit by missile in the Red Sea

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post #4

Something I'm unsure about is what does and doesn't trigger wars. Russian jets downed a US drone over the black sea in March 2023, I thought for sure there'd be a commensurate US military response. But there didn't appear to be one. Was it because no human was aboard the drone (so no response was justified), from fear or escalation, or something else? In any case, if a large cargo ship were sunk, would the US or othe…

It's time to read some Clausewitz. That book outlines the philosophy of how most western states think about war. The short version I would say is that war is a tool of politics, so if there is no political goal, there will be no war, regardless of how bad the supposed Causus Belli is. Shooting down a drone usually doesn't do it partly because of the political implications: it would be deeply unpopular to put "boots o…

Any specific book of his you recommend? "On War" seems to be the one that popped up on a search but wanted to confirm. Sounds like an interesting topic.

Re: Maersk ship hit by missile in the Red Sea

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's time to read some Clausewitz. That book outlines the philosophy of how most western states think about war. The short version I would say is that war is a tool of politics, so if there is no political goal, there will be no war, regardless of how bad the supposed Causus Belli is. Shooting down a drone usually doesn't do it partly because of the political implications: it would be deeply unpopular to put "boots o…

Any specific book of his you recommend? "On War" seems to be the one that popped up on a search but wanted to confirm. Sounds like an interesting topic.

On War is the book.

Re: Maersk ship hit by missile in the Red Sea

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How much longer can this go on? It seems like there are so many parties whose economic interests all align that this would just be dealt with swiftly and decisively. Am I just naive? Is there no reasonably straightforward way to stop the Houthis? Wouldn't much of Europe, Saudi Arabia and others be very interested in ending this as quickly as possible?

Re: Maersk ship hit by missile in the Red Sea

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It's a function of how powerful one's adversary is. Russia is a superpower.

Russia is not a superpower or even remotely close to such a status. No country besides the US is currently considered a superpower.

Any country with the ability to completely erase entire countries (i.e. has an enormous stockpile of nuclear weapons) is a superpower.

Re: Maersk ship hit by missile in the Red Sea

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"The Singapore-flagged, Denmark-owned/operated container ship requested assistance, and the USS GRAVELY (DDG 107) and USS LABOON (DDG 58) have responded to the ship."

Why does a Danish owned and operated container ship fly under the Singapore flag?

Why did the US Navy get involved?

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