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America doesn't know tofu

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Re: America doesn't know tofu

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If anyone else's wondering whether the author followed up on importing tofu in the US, here's what his webpage says: > It’s nice to meet you. I’m working on promoting Chinese tofus in the States. If you’re not familiar, China has over 20 types of tofus. They taste nothing like conventional white blocks. Some are bready. Others taste like aged cheese. Some bake up like pastry crust. Others melt. > I’m writing a book t…

There's tofu that melts? Huh. That (I thought) it didn't melt was the one thing holding it back from being a true vegan cheese[0] alternative to me. [0] Process for making {cheese, tofu}: take {milk, soy milk}, add some acid to make the proteins coagulate, then draw the rest of the owl to get your sliceable high-protein block of controllable firmness and flavour.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermented_bean_curd

It doesn't "melt" in the sense that it softens and becomes stringy when heated (eg. Mozzarella), but you can "dissolve" this kind of tofu in water, or at least you can make it a sauce-like consistency by adding water.

It has vaguely cheese-like flavor, more akin to the softer, ripened cheeses or the blue cheeses, but not so much the harder cheeses like cheddar.

Should be widely available, try it some time. Usually it's not directly eaten, but more of a condiment or for adding flavor to a dish in a similar way as soy sauce.

Re: America doesn't know tofu

#122

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It has? At least in Germany I can easily find Seitan in stores in bigger cities and order copious amounts of organic Seitan online from German vendors. No marketing, but an example: https://www.korodrogerie.de/bio-seitan-400-g

yeah you're right, you can get it, but it's not actively used as the main ingredient for meat substitution both in recipes and commercial products. In China it was one of the main ingredients already for decades I think, if not longer. Here it became soya for some reason

Gotta have that "gluten free" label.

Re: America doesn't know tofu

#123
post #48

This is a nice article, but it does have some parts that seem off base. First you can walk into any chinese grocery store (in america) and get 20 kinds of tofu, thats really not an issue, and chinese restaurants (in chinatown) will sell many kinds of tofu. The other is that the author makes the mistake of over emphasizing the vegetarianism aspect (which i think some comments here also are). Many chinese dishes with t…

Right. I've been eating tofu in the US all my adult life, since about 1983 or so. Everywhere I've lived (FL, GA, NC, AZ, CA) it's been available in standard grocery stores, generally with several varieties. Asian markets, as you note, have many varieties. I have a number of vegetarian tofu recipes I like but... my favorite Ma Po tofu recipes (there are innumerable versions) have meat in them. I really dislike how com…

Which of her books do you recommend for the relatively experienced home cook who's done a little bit of imitation Chinese cooking?

Re: America doesn't know tofu

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Right. I've been eating tofu in the US all my adult life, since about 1983 or so. Everywhere I've lived (FL, GA, NC, AZ, CA) it's been available in standard grocery stores, generally with several varieties. Asian markets, as you note, have many varieties. I have a number of vegetarian tofu recipes I like but... my favorite Ma Po tofu recipes (there are innumerable versions) have meat in them. I really dislike how com…

Which of her books do you recommend for the relatively experienced home cook who's done a little bit of imitation Chinese cooking?

Anybody can cook the recipes in "Revolutionary Chinese Cookbook" and "The Food of Sichuan". I would caution people unfamiliar with authentic Chinese food that these are not the flavors of 99% of US Chinese restaurants. To our palette they are vastly better. Sometimes shockingly so, as for example her General Tso's chicken. You cook that correctly you'll get nauseous thinking about American/Chinese General Tso's chicken.

What you will probably have a problem with is getting the more exotic ingredients. I could not find some things in Ranch 99 markets, and now that I live in the Atlanta area it's quite a bit harder. Fortunately quite a few items are available on Amazon.

Re: America doesn't know tofu

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Yeah, no, the person you’re responding to is not wrong. “Soy boy” as an insult has never been about processed foods - what are you on about?

The soyboy insult came about particularly to criticize frail tech nerds (who are white in all the memes) who eat meal replacement diets, particularly soylent. Its not about edamame. Furthermore this meme/insult is new while soy has been grown but not consumed by most people in the west for many generations. The meme cannot explain soys status in the west because it came late.

Soy has been a filler in processed foods for some time.

Re: America doesn't know tofu

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My biggest concern is the push towards attempting to legally restrict animal consumption. I can't handle legumes and have intolerances to a very broad spectrum of foods. Ruminant meats and pasture raised eggs are about the only things I can consistently eat without issue.

Who is pushing whom towards legally restricting animal consumption? Not sure what country you’re in. Would you mind linking an article or two about it? Doesn’t matter what language it’s in. I’m interested in learning more.

Re: America doesn't know tofu

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The article failed to mention tempeh. Yes, not exactly tofu, but belongs in the same category. I would describe it as a cross between "block of classic tofu" and Japanese natto. It is probably much harder to find in the US. Probably, you can find it in Los Angeles where there is a biggish overseas Indo community.

Tempeh is widely available in the US, at least in California. I cant think of a grocery store that doesnt have it.

Re: America doesn't know tofu

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Yeah, saying you're making tofu for dinner is interpreted ideologically in the rural US. Along with your choice of beer and snack chips. I'm not surprised that ideology (and anger!) has been commoditized in the states; after all, if there's a single founding principle in our nation, it's staying out of my way unless your way involves me making a buck. But it's more than a little depressing how easily people get schno…

> Yeah, saying you're making tofu for dinner is interpreted ideologically in the rural US. That seems like a pretty broad generation. Are you sure it's true?

Elsewhere in this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38816222

Re: America doesn't know tofu

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post #125

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Why? Current scientific evidence does not support the idea that soy is harmful to males. Instead, it suggests that moderate soy consumption can be a healthy part of a balanced diet.

>Current scientific evidence does not support the idea that soy is harmful to males.

Not true: "Feminizing effect of phytoestrogens and soy products may be subtle, detectable only statistically in large populations; it can be of particular importance for children and adolescents." [0]

Jury is still out on soy. If you've had to deal with the latest league of junior devs, it makes sense why they're called "soydevs."

[0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4270274/

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