Joke aside, I think it's important to explore the allowance of exits for people that want to end their lives, but at the same time I understand if people are concerned if easy suicide becomes easily available to the populance.
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#62I admit, the "barriers to entry" raises some troublesome contradictions to my mind. Do we set an age limit, and if so, what? What about testing for various intoxicants or anything else which might cause someone to be unable to enter even into a contract for a gym membership? But it seems to stretch out: will there be a panel to whom someone must justify themselves? Perhaps an essay ...
On the other hand, I am reminded of that quote from Patrick Stewart, "I have a strong feeling that, should the time come for me, having had no role in my birth, I would like there to be a choice I might make about how I die." Indeed, nobody tests for intoxicants or goes before a panel before producing an infant. Life is something which happens to you and not a great deal of fuss is made about the qualifications.
And make no mistake, we are each born owing the grave a debt. It will come due eventually, the question seems to be whether or not you get to set a time and a manner to it, or must it happen to you just as life happened to you? Without volition or selection of circumstance. Can we offer ourselves and one another the kindness we might bestow on a beloved pet?
I've no answers, only questions I find more and more uncomfortable.
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#63Suicide should NOT be as stigmatized as it currently is in modern society. Everyone was brought into this world without their permission, they should be able to leave it in a safe and reliable way too.
I can never tell if this is satire or not. What does this even mean? Is this a bad thing? Is there some utopian goal where we somehow build some gizmo that can communicate with your consciousness pre-conception and get informed consent to 'being you into this world'?
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#64Can't wait until we start recycling the bodies for food.
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#65No obligatory "Soylent Green" reference? https://scifiinterfaces.com/2022/09/13/thanatorium-the-patie...
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#66you can put a bucket over your head and pipe helium into it and that will work the same. this is a waste of money. its like insult to injury
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#67Even if you've spent your entire life, working hard paying into the system. The money for your retirement care has been spent already. Sorry you're poor and suffering. Here's an easier option out for you. Profits made on the sale of any viable organs.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
More realistically chronically ill, mentally ill, and disabled people will be increasingly pressured into this "alternative" by the medical and welfare systems, as is already happening in canada. Exactly as predicted years ago by disabled people, exactly as dismissed then as a slippery slope. It's not a fallacy when there's prior art!
I'm curious to learn more. Do you have any references re. Canada?