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Memes and mental health: How teens are coping with increasing stress

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Re: Memes and mental health: How teens are coping with increasing stress

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Post by gchamonlive »

mistermann wrote: post #44
Podgajski wrote: post #28

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The problem is not the suffering, the problem is hopelessness in the face of suffering. If people are comforted when they are suffering, or if we can end suffering, where is the problem with the suffering and horror of the world? But… We see the suffering in our cities, poverty, homelessness, drug abuse, but nothing is done. We see endless wars, propagated by the United States around the world, but nothing is done. W…

> I think we’ve slowly been conditioned that there is someone else that’s supposed to do something, either a politician, or an organization, or or some administrator somewhere, so we just sit back and watch and watch and watch. I am under the very strong impression that "democracy" is what fixes such things, I've seen many charts and discussions asserting that claim. Personally, I consider democracy to be mostly an o…

> I consider democracy to be mostly an obvious illusion/trick, so those who have fallen for it are kind of getting what they deserve for not listening to (if not outright mocking) warnings.

That is a vacuous claim without any alternative so support it. I too am not too satisfied with the options I had last elections where I lived, but that is the best we have right now.

Re: Memes and mental health: How teens are coping with increasing stress

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Post by GoToRO »

switch007 wrote: post #49
GoToRO wrote: post #24

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The algorithm is forcing them. Stop beeing so naive. Even if you don't like or follow any of the controversial stuff, that stuff is constantly recommended "for you" by the algorithm.

I wrote forcing them /to be on/ Instagram. No algorithm is forcing the installation of the app or making their browser go to instagram.com. With that, I indirectly wanted to acknowledge it's better not to play, because of the algorithms.

Removing yourself from your peers is never the answer.

Re: Memes and mental health: How teens are coping with increasing stress

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Post by ZeePelli »

parineum wrote: post #50
ZeePelli wrote: post #26

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And also be more kind, tolerant, wish others, and oneself. I agree that this is the ideal response, but unfortunately this hasn't been the general result and I doubt it ever will be. When an animal learns (or is tricked) that its environment is more harsh and dangerous than it previously believed, its instinctive reaction is to become less trusting, less curious, more withdrawn, and very often more prone to anger and…

> I agree that this is the ideal response, but unfortunately this hasn't been the general result I think rates of poverty, starvation, rape, murder, etc. all disagree with you here.

To be clear, my comment was specifically about the effect of "horror news bombardment" on individuals, particularly via social media. I'm not sure it can take credit for the trends you mentioned, which started a very long time ago.

Re: Memes and mental health: How teens are coping with increasing stress

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Post by sidlls »

tmn wrote: post #12
gchamonlive wrote: post #5

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> I don't get why this is framed as "nowadays". > "the same thing that always happened happens now, just increased by the presence of the internet". Didn't you answer yourself? It's not that teens never had stress before, the article explores how they are coping with stress increase.

Jonathan Haidt would argue that their coping mechanisms are not as well developed due to less unstructured play time (conflict resolution without appealing to an adult).

I'd agree with that assessment and go further. Their ability to manage basic self-care is impaired. I hesitate to use my generation (Gen X) as an example, because I think we were on an extreme of borderline neglect, but there's something about Gen Z/alpha that just screams borderline abuse on the other end of that spectrum.

Re: Memes and mental health: How teens are coping with increasing stress

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Post by switch007 »

GoToRO wrote: post #52
switch007 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wrote forcing them /to be on/ Instagram. No algorithm is forcing the installation of the app or making their browser go to instagram.com. With that, I indirectly wanted to acknowledge it's better not to play, because of the algorithms.

Removing yourself from your peers is never the answer.

Are you even trying to understand? I mean come on. Removing yourself from Insta is not removing yourself from your peers (it’s actually the opposite if you instead meet in real life). Real life exists. Don’t be so dramatic

Re: Memes and mental health: How teens are coping with increasing stress

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Post by mistermann »

gchamonlive wrote: post #51
mistermann wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think we’ve slowly been conditioned that there is someone else that’s supposed to do something, either a politician, or an organization, or or some administrator somewhere, so we just sit back and watch and watch and watch. I am under the very strong impression that "democracy" is what fixes such things, I've seen many charts and discussions asserting that claim. Personally, I consider democracy to be mostly an o…

> I consider democracy to be mostly an obvious illusion/trick, so those who have fallen for it are kind of getting what they deserve for not listening to (if not outright mocking) warnings. That is a vacuous claim without any alternative so support it. I too am not too satisfied with the options I had last elections where I lived, but that is the best we have right now.

Are you describing the fact of the matter, or your knowledge/perception of the matter?

Bonus question: who sets school curriculum, and may that have some relevance here?

Re: Memes and mental health: How teens are coping with increasing stress

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Post by GoToRO »

switch007 wrote: post #55
GoToRO wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Removing yourself from your peers is never the answer.

Are you even trying to understand? I mean come on. Removing yourself from Insta is not removing yourself from your peers (it’s actually the opposite if you instead meet in real life). Real life exists. Don’t be so dramatic

It seems you are the dramatic one based on your last comment.
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