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Re: Wikipedia daily most viewed pages

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Post by somenameforme »

carschno wrote: post #69
adlpz wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And the best part is that I can trust this information to be neutral and factually correct. Excuse me, what? Wikipedia is great. But assuming it's neutral and factually correct is delusional. Like with every single organization made up of human beings, power dynamics and censorship are part of Wikipedia. It's still the less bad one, but no one should trust it that blindly.

You might have an absolutist view on the meaning of neutrality. Of course, you can argue philosophically that absolute neutrality does not exist in theory. What Wikipedia does achieve in practice, though, is a very successful attempt to provide balanced and well researched information on an incredible number of topics. The inevitable occasional mistake does not bring it down to the level of arbitrary internet resourc…

Wikipedia, unlike more classical encyclopedias such as e.g. Britannica, is not a primary source, by design. On anything tangentially related to topics like politics it's obligated to rely on sources like the US media which make no effort to even feign neutrality or balance. And of course these sources are then cited by editors who, similarly, have little interest in even feigning balance, beyond some minimal pretext.

The ideal of checks and balances keeping the system relatively neutral would only work if there was a relative balance of ideological views among overactive editors. And on that, I'm reminded of that line from the Blues Brothers, 'We have all types of music here - country and western!'

Re: Wikipedia daily most viewed pages

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Post by magpi3 »

plufz wrote: post #80

I don’t mean to snark but a little depressive that it is all brands, celebrities, marvel movies, etc, right? I hope there is a long tail we don’t see here where people look up more general knowledge. Would be interesting to see top views per category.

Most popular = lowest common denominator, but that is not really as bad as it sounds. It's perfectly possible that everyone clicking on these general interest topics is also reading about something more niche or educational at the same time, but because we are all not reading about the same educational thing those results don't show up.

Re: Wikipedia daily most viewed pages

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Post by ProxCoques »

sgt wrote: post #72
ProxCoques wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I make it 88% mobile web, 9% desktop, 3% mobile app (why Wikipedia wastes money on a mobile native app is beyond me, but hey).

Surely 3% of total traffic for something like Wikipedia (hyperpopular) is well worth the investment?

Only if they think that 3% would not otherwise use Wikipedia. But in reality that 3% would just use the web app instead, no? In fact if they put a web link in the app store, would anyone even notice the difference?

OT I know, but I really don't get the whole native app thing, particualry for non-profits or charities.

Re: Wikipedia daily most viewed pages

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Post by da39a3ee »

londons_explore wrote: post #92
kapitanjakc wrote: post #65

The reason of so many entries being made up of "Indian interests", is because the cheap internet provided by Reliance Jio. Purely speculation on my part, but I have seen more internet presence of Indian public after Reliance Jio. That and affordable or cheap even Android phones being easily available. As there's 1.4 billion of us, it was bound to happen at some point, but I think Reliance Jio's cheap internet and eas…

The cost of my internet connection has little bearing on how much I browse Wikipedia. Even YouTube I watch with little regard to internet cost, since on 144p it's only 100 MB for an hour of video. Obviously I do pay attention to the quality setting, because the bill can get huge fast if on HD!

Um, I think you need to rethink this comment bearing in mind that a large proportion of people in the world don't have the money for a monthly internet bill at all.

Re: Wikipedia daily most viewed pages

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Post by [deleted] »

kapitanjakc wrote: post #65

The reason of so many entries being made up of "Indian interests", is because the cheap internet provided by Reliance Jio. Purely speculation on my part, but I have seen more internet presence of Indian public after Reliance Jio. That and affordable or cheap even Android phones being easily available. As there's 1.4 billion of us, it was bound to happen at some point, but I think Reliance Jio's cheap internet and eas…

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Re: Wikipedia daily most viewed pages

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Post by ImaCake »

fifilura wrote: post #48
np_tedious wrote: post #15

Are people really reading Youtube, pornhub, facebook, Instagram pages this frequently or are these misclicks from search result page?

I think it could be some browser configuration, that your search setting points towards wikipedia. So that if you write "youtube" without the .com the browser will direct you to wikipedia instead.

I could see iOS safari doing this. It often has a suggested page when you type in the search/URL bar.

Re: Wikipedia daily most viewed pages

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Post by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK »

tacker2000 wrote: post #100

What i found interesting: if you switch to “yearly”, most of the pages have almost 70-90% mobile visits, except the page on “Bible”, which has only 3% mobile. Could that be due to bots/scrapers?

Probably hindus ate not that interested in the bible.

Re: Wikipedia daily most viewed pages

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Post by bvaldivielso »

One very curious thing I ran into today: this morning I woke up and when I checked my phone, the (Spanish) Wikipedia page for Cleopatra was open on my browser. I didn't myself open that intentionally, but I thought I must have accidentally tapped on some links while I was asleep, and ended up there.

But now I see this website and it turns out that "Cleopatra" is consistently one of the most visited pages in the Spanish Wikipedia. Odd! I googled and it turns out that it's because it's one of the example queries in Google Assistant (source, in Spanish: https://www.elespanol.com/omicrono/software/20230118/cleopat... ). I must have tapped on it without realising. And like me, thousands of others, every day! Fascinating

Re: Wikipedia daily most viewed pages

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Post by avar »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #88
jl6 wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not completely true. There are two different types of political articles: 1) Those where two opposing edit-warring factions have battled each other into a compromise/stalemate, resulting in a passably neutral article, and 2) Those where a single aligned group of edit-warriors have gained supremacy and have come to gatekeep the article against any opposing perspectives.

It's worse than that. It affects the entire site. Here's an example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Three_(automobile_manufact... > "GM, for instance, at one time picked up the entire cost of funding health insurance premiums of its employees, their survivors and GM retirees, as the US did not have a universal health care system ." This is an article about automakers. The reason they picked up future healthcare co…

You're only reading that as a political jab because you're too entranced in American partisan politics.

Americans are a minority among the portion of the world's population that can read English easily enough to consult the English language Wikipedia.

When doing so, the rest us can use a brief reminder of what's ultimately a rather quaint aspect of the US: The fact that healthcare costs are a significant concern of employers.

The source cited for the paragraph you're picking apart is an article that's contrasting US automakers and their international competition.

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