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Re: Firefox Sync actually works

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post #266

I wish Firefox took RSS more seriously. Imagine, if Firefox Sync not only supported RSS feed synchronization between devices, but also would keep updating them in the cloud, so one wouldn't miss any news from busy websites.

Will never work the way firefox sync is set up : it's client side encrypted, in the "cloud" it's just a blob.

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

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post #8

Yes, it just works; but a few days back all my devices suddenly lost almost all of the passwords. Not all but most of them, couldn't make out any pattern or reason. Luckily a Linux laptop that I don't usually use had the full set and I had to export them, sync, and import them back to restore everywhere. Very scary, any ideas why this could've happened? I immediately backed up for the future, but this kind of loss sh…

is it a good idea to use password managers built into web browsers? (vs using a password manager from some third party? bw/1p)

I don't know, but I use an admittedly clunky setup using Password Safe and my own NextCloud server just to be sure I have complete control.

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

#283

The most compelling reason to use Firefox Sync is that it is client-side encrypted. Mozilla stores opaque encrypted blobs that it is entirely unable to decrypt. Law enforcement agencies request that data from time to time, hoping to obtain browsing history, only to be turned down thanks to the encryption. (disclaimer: former Mozilla security)

Even better, you can host the sync server yourself: https://github.com/mozilla-services/syncstorage-rs

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

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I'm surprised one can write an entire article on browser sync and not mention Safari, Chrome's main competitor.

Safari works great if you run 100% Apple devices, and breaks the moment you want to mix and match with even one non-blessed device. Firefox will happily sync to everything, and so will Chrome.

These are reasonable caveats, but I don’t think this disqualifies Safari as not worth writing about if you’re a so-called tech journalist. There are way more Apple-only users than Firefox users.

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

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Passwords belong in a dedicated password manager. Besides those, I don't understand what I'd want to sync. I've even disabled syncing tabs between sessions on the same machine. The last thing I need is for what I was doing yesterday to distract me from what I'm trying to do today. What I want in a browser is a dumb box that starts up as a blank slate every time, renders HTML and JavaScript, and is indistinguishable f…

I actually wish Mozilla put out a dedicated password manager. They have Sync, and they have SoPS (or well, used to?). I'd gladly pay extra for it

I think that I'd prefer Firefox allow Bitwarden and other password tools to replace Firefox's password implementation. That way you'd get the UI/UX of integrated password management, but the single-source-authoritative backend too.

(before someone points out that Bitwarden has an extension: I do know that, but I'd like to see more modular features in browsers rather than our-way-is-best)

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

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The most compelling reason to use Firefox Sync is that it is client-side encrypted. Mozilla stores opaque encrypted blobs that it is entirely unable to decrypt. Law enforcement agencies request that data from time to time, hoping to obtain browsing history, only to be turned down thanks to the encryption. (disclaimer: former Mozilla security)

Is this encrypted with a KDF from your password?

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

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Passwords belong in a dedicated password manager. Besides those, I don't understand what I'd want to sync. I've even disabled syncing tabs between sessions on the same machine. The last thing I need is for what I was doing yesterday to distract me from what I'm trying to do today. What I want in a browser is a dumb box that starts up as a blank slate every time, renders HTML and JavaScript, and is indistinguishable f…

> Besides those, I don't understand what I'd want to sync.

I think it's useful to sync extensions, and personal configurations.

For example, I have a userchrome.css (or something like that) file that, for the news.ycombinator.com domain enforces a maximum width on paragraphs, so that on my really really wide screen I don't get 900 characters per line, I get 78 or so.

Without sync, I simply copy the files to the correct profile whenever I buy a new machine. With sync, I wouldn't have to.

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

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I love Firefox and this feature, but I need to hop between several devices and browsers for different purposes. I keep all my passwords, tabs, and bookmarks synced to my Nextcloud server with some extensions. If a particular browser goes to sh.., I can switch to another with low friction.

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

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Passwords belong in a dedicated password manager. Besides those, I don't understand what I'd want to sync. I've even disabled syncing tabs between sessions on the same machine. The last thing I need is for what I was doing yesterday to distract me from what I'm trying to do today. What I want in a browser is a dumb box that starts up as a blank slate every time, renders HTML and JavaScript, and is indistinguishable f…

> Besides those, I don't understand what I'd want to sync. I think it's useful to sync extensions, and personal configurations. For example, I have a userchrome.css (or something like that) file that, for the news.ycombinator.com domain enforces a maximum width on paragraphs, so that on my really really wide screen I don't get 900 characters per line, I get 78 or so. Without sync, I simply copy the files to the corre…

I don't think Firefox Sync manages userChrome though. I currently manage those files together with the rest of my dotfiles with Chezmoi:

https://github.com/flexagoon/dotfiles/blob/main/.chezmoiexte...

https://github.com/flexagoon/dotfiles/tree/main/dot_config/f...

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

#290

One of my biggest gripes with Firefox sync is the way they have divided the mobile bookmarks from the pc ones. It makes the ux kinda weird as a lot of the bookmarks I use on my desktop I also use on my phone and vice verca. But when I add a bookmark on my phone it ends in a separate mobile bookmark folder.

Oh and you can't use the bookmark tag thing on mobile either.

And you can't delete a URL (or domain) from the results of a search of browsing history. So the URL will continue to come up until you sync your history and get rid of the URL/domain on desktop.

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