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Amazon receives FDA warning letter for supplements with undeclared ingredients

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Re: Amazon receives FDA warning letter for supplements with undeclared ingredients

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Post by LegitShady »

jupp0r wrote: post #31
duxup wrote: post #18

More and more Amazon just seems like a "you're on your own" scam site. I can't figure out what I'm getting anymore. Half the listings are sponsored ads when I search. I searched for "Lego" this past Christmas and on the first page I got a bunch of products that were in what looked just like Lego boxes with Lego fonts and numbering ... but were not made by Lego and were clearly made to deceive. I noticed some items I…

The customer service is pretty amazing compared to most other stores, at least in my opinion. Returns are easy and free, and you get a replacement shipped right away but have weeks to return the item.

returns are not universally free or easy. I bought a power supply for a computer (corsair) and it went on sale a week later. I called to get a price adjustment and amazon told me they don't match even their own prices. So I said I'd return it and order a new one and I was told I'd have to pay return shipping.

I don't buy many products on amazon anymore.

Re: Amazon receives FDA warning letter for supplements with undeclared ingredients

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Post by arrowleaf »

gehwartzen wrote: post #51
notyourwork wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder the same thing. It seems like something that at Amazon scale we pick on but at physical store scale we discard as not possible.

I haven't hear about these problems at Walmart and would think the scale of stuff sold is comparable. I think the main problem, as others have mentioned, is that Amazon commingles products from various suppliers (so everything that comes in from a manufacturer or a true vetted wholesaler + 1000's of "flip stuff from china" garage operations get mixed up at Amazon warehouses before being sold).

Right. Walmart doesn't let someone drive up with a semi-load of what looks like bags of King Arthur bread flour, mark the pallets with a tag, and cut them a check when they stock the items from that pallet onto the shelf. That's basically what Amazon does.

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Post by asveikau »

techbrovanguard wrote: post #59
dboreham wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nanny state socialism! The market should take care of dangerous products. Nobody is going to buy such a cord twice.

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I read it as sarcasm, but I guess you can't tell these days. (Where these days is at least 20 years)

You won't buy such a cable twice because it will burn down your house and risk killing you, hence, you're not buying it a second time as a dead person. Obviously no flaws in that logic.

Re: Amazon receives FDA warning letter for supplements with undeclared ingredients

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Post by dahart »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #50
dahart wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we’re going to have an honest conversation, Sildenafil does have some serious potential side effects and contraindications. Googling “why does viagra require a prescription?” I get an answer attributed to Healthline: “due to these severe (but rare) side-effects, Viagra requires a prescription”. At least acknowledge that, it is a good reason. A doc visit does take time but it neither takes 2 hours nor costs $100 fo…

> maybe the minor hurdle of having to require a doc to check on the potential for side-effects really is justified? Viagra is trivially available on the black market because many people don’t want to put up with that B.S. Antibiotics have a public interest in being gatekept; they harm everyone if abused. A similar argument can be made for addictive substances. Merely-harmful drugs, on the other hand, can be disclaime…

Everything is available on the black market, that doesn’t mean regulations are BS, it means people are willing to risk breaking the law to avoid being tracked. The demand for Viagra might have more to do with being embarassed about ED or other fears than with concern about the difficulty of getting it legally. (As another commenter pointed out, the bar is extremely low when using online remote clinics.)

What does “merely-harmful” mean? What do you mean it can be disclaimed? If it were over the counter, how will people know when and how to avoid fatal doses? Why do you assume it might be either effective or safe if diluted?

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Post by segmondy »

Don't buy anything from Amazon that you would put in your mouth, supplements, food, toothpaste, mouthwash, anything!

I'm even wondering if to do the same for things applied to body as well, my wife recently bought a hair cream because from Amazon because she couldn't find it in stores. It was obvious the one from Amazon was not real when compared with the remaining ones she had. Package was perfect, but the color/texture of the cream was very different.

It's a big chance buying things from online marketplace.

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Post by hx8 »

thedougd wrote: post #32

Do American grocery stores have better controls or does their broker model just happen to filter the junk?

Some of both. I think it's mostly the model.

* All of a single product is from the same vendor. Very often, that vendor is also the manufacturer. (model)

* Grocery stores have limited shelf space, and thus spend time getting to know their products. (model influencing qa)

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Post by duxup »

jupp0r wrote: post #31
duxup wrote: post #18

More and more Amazon just seems like a "you're on your own" scam site. I can't figure out what I'm getting anymore. Half the listings are sponsored ads when I search. I searched for "Lego" this past Christmas and on the first page I got a bunch of products that were in what looked just like Lego boxes with Lego fonts and numbering ... but were not made by Lego and were clearly made to deceive. I noticed some items I…

The customer service is pretty amazing compared to most other stores, at least in my opinion. Returns are easy and free, and you get a replacement shipped right away but have weeks to return the item.

My example regarding customer service kinda makes me feel that their CS isn't so amazing.

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Post by [deleted] »

noodlesUK wrote: post #26

I think with the state of things, Amazon should be completely banned from selling anything that might be construed a supplement. They have such lax controls that your protein powder or vitamin pills might contain pretty much anything. Even reputable brands bought from their brand storefront might be counterfeit [1]. You’d be shocked at the number of things that are counterfeit. A friend of mine recently bought a nich…

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Post by jcampbell1 »

Sanzig wrote: post #6

> FDA confirmed through laboratory analyses that the “MANNERS Energy Boost,” “Round 2,” “Genergy,” and “X Max Triple Shot Energy Honey” products, purchased on www.amazon.com, contained the active pharmaceutical ingredient (API) tadalafil; and the “WeFun,” “Big Guys Male Energy Supplement,” and “Mens Maximum Energy Supplement” products, also purchased on www.amazon.com, contained the API sildenafil. These ingredients…

They are practically OTC everywhere in the world. A huge pain in the add to get in the US where the MD cartel engages in rent seeking by claiming every pharmaceutical is dangerous and they need $200 every quarter to let you buy the meds at hyper inflated prices.
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