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Re: Firefox Sync actually works

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Why would anyone need a reason? I mean it seriously. Chrome users on this platform really baffling for me. They know what the consequences are, they know quite well what the icon with their picture on the corner does. Still being OK with this is super interesting. Most products are often get grilled here for having closed code parts or similar concerns but when it comes to giving complete audit of their online existe…

I think the big difference is stated purpose vs execution, especially combined with who/when that elicits a response vs passive agreement/disagreement. An extremely small proportion of even the super techno-nerd crowd are really about the principles of open source, all other considerations be damned, when selecting software to use. That said, when something claiming supposed to be the bastion for that use case and antithesis of what the closed for profits do does something they'd expect from the latter it elicits an extremely strong response from nearly all of those that are as well as a good portion of those who have other considerations just because of the hypocrisy. Windows/macOS adding a new Bing or Siri integration somewhere, while getting some mumblings, isn't going to illicit nearly the same kind of reaction from the crowd though as everyone already knows and expects that of them. The majority of even highly technical users tend to use software based on what they find most productive, not necessarily the software with the best policies and licensing. So, statistically speaking, you tend to get complaints about open source software not being up to snuff or principle followed by most people choosing non-open software much of the time anyways because they feel it works better for them.

For Firefox specifically, it's long failed at holding the web back from Chrome and the choice isn't about that anymore. That title has firmly been with Safari for a long time now. Because Safari isn't available on all platforms it leaves not much of a concern to choose a Chromium based browser outside that group who operate solely on principle not 100% of the browser is open source.

I think for a long time Firefox languished a bit too far behind Chromium in many architectural aspects (I remember waiting fooooreeever for Electrolysis then when it came out the browser was significantly slower than Chrom* at the time). This comparison is leaps and bounds better today but it's a bit of a day late, dollar short situation in that it's not better enough to get droves of people to switch over again like the IE vs Firefox era.

The other thing I'll mention is when the topic of browsers comes up people's goto is the last issue they personally had with each. Given the size and complexity of browsers combined with the amount of hardware, OS, and use case variance this tends to feel more akin to people arguing whether lottery numbers skew odd vs even based on their last experience than anything about the actual browsers. Even when the discussion steers towards talk of a specific feature a lot of the time that feature didn't even originate in the browser it's being brought up for.

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

#163
I wish there was an extension that would make it work in Chromium based browsers. I use Firefox in windows while gaming ... but for dev work on Linux I use Brave. I use Xbookmarksync to sync bookmarks and Bitwarden for passwords. It basically works but I have a Firefox account anyway and history could be sync across browsers and maybe some setting that exist in both the same way.

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

#164

Passwords belong in a dedicated password manager. Besides those, I don't understand what I'd want to sync. I've even disabled syncing tabs between sessions on the same machine. The last thing I need is for what I was doing yesterday to distract me from what I'm trying to do today. What I want in a browser is a dumb box that starts up as a blank slate every time, renders HTML and JavaScript, and is indistinguishable f…

My experience with using Firefox as my only password manager has been great. Aside from functioning as intended on my computer, it makes it easy to access them on Android (shortcut to passwords if you long-press the app, systemwide password provider integration)

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

#165
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, E2EE.

The parent raised a good point tho. If you can add devices without entering encryption info, how can it be properly E2E?

The original Firefox sync did this "right" (from a privacy and encryption perspective) but required user out-of-band transfer of key material to add a new device. Apparently this was too difficult for users, so they dropped it in favour of "user accounts" with passwords instead.

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

#166
Since the main topic of this article is sync, does any browser or extension out there support syncing active tabs withing the browsing window, rather than putting them in a separate "recent tabs" menu? In other words, mirroring the entire browsing session across devices (ideally preserving tab order).

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

#167

It’s too bad that Firefox has such a great UX and privacy-focused cloud features like this, yet is being held back by its engine. As a heavy FF user for the last few years it’s become more and more clear that the world just doesn’t care about making sites work on FF and I’m more frequently having to switch to Chrome. My dream is that FF would switch to Chromium while keeping all the great features around the browser…

It's too bad this is always one of the most upvoted comments on every FF thread when it just doesn't reflect reality.. been using Firefox for basically it's entire existence and it just works. It's always worked. Never been significantly slower than Chrome, at least to an extent that it matters, and now it's not slower at all. I don't have Chrome installed on my computer since everything works. What parallel reality…

I have also been using Firefox since its early days. The only issue I have is trying to share my screen with Google Meet it just does not work. While, not surprising it is a slight annoyance as my company uses Google meet for all of our meetings.

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

#168

One of the things that I like about Firefox is that it lets you right click on websites that disable right clicking by holding down shift. Reminds you that the browser should be the user's agent and not the website's.

I wish you could stop websites hijacking the quick find key (/) too.

Or Ctrl+h for history. I'm looking at you Google Docs. I really don't understand why websites are allowed to override browser shortcuts and there is no way to block it.

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

#169
Firefox has multiple compelling reasons to use it:

  Sync
  Containers
  Tree Style Tabs
  uBlock Origin on Android
  Open Source since 1998!
  Not based on Chromium
Be wary of sync on a fresh Linux install, it might sync the default bookmarks and merge them with your own. Not a huge deal but definitely an annoyance.

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

#170

One of the things that I like about Firefox is that it lets you right click on websites that disable right clicking by holding down shift. Reminds you that the browser should be the user's agent and not the website's.

It would be great if they allowed that for Ctrl+F as well. Jupyter Lab infuriates me with that.

Yeah, it's a pain. One workaround is to go to the menu and select Find
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