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Re: Firefox Sync actually works

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The sync contents are encrypted between devices. EDIT: After writing this, I realized I should investigate the claim, because new devices are added just by logging in, not by giving them any sort of password.

Logging in includes giving the device a password. There's no off-channel key synchronization. What means that the encryption is only as good as your password. But AFAIK no browser has it anyway, and nearly no sync service.

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Re: Firefox Sync actually works

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Yes, it just works; but a few days back all my devices suddenly lost almost all of the passwords. Not all but most of them, couldn't make out any pattern or reason. Luckily a Linux laptop that I don't usually use had the full set and I had to export them, sync, and import them back to restore everywhere. Very scary, any ideas why this could've happened? I immediately backed up for the future, but this kind of loss sh…

is it a good idea to use password managers built into web browsers? (vs using a password manager from some third party? bw/1p)

I used Firefox's password manager for a long time but eventually switched to KeePass which is FOSS and not cloud based. It's much better than the browser builtin password managers.

I store the .kdbx file in Syncthing (== Dropbox) so it automagically syncs between all my computers and phones. Use the KeepassXC app on computers along with their browser plugins, and the KeepassDX app on Android (idk about iOS).

One advantage of this is that the passwords work across all browsers. If you use FF's password manager, you only get passwords available in Firefox; but with Keepass they work in FF & Chrome & for native android apps & etc. And with the browser plugins it works about as well as the browser's native password managers. It also has support for TOTP 2 factor authentication.

Also I can easily make a copy of the .kdbx file (literally just ctrl-c ctrl-v the file) to save archives of my password db. (That said, over years of having the database open across multiple devices and editing it while open on multiple devices, it's never gotten corrupted)

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

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I don't use Firefox because I find the way Mozilla communicates to be creepy. I don't like that word but I'm not sure how else to describe it.

It's pretty sad. I wanted to do a one time donation to mozilla last month and they kept and kept pushing for a recurring one instead.

Aggressive marketing tends to trigger in me an equal and opposite reaction, so they didn't even get the one time donation.

Also, they should get rid of the 'what's new in firefox after an upgrade' and just give me my pages back. 99.99% of the time I don't care what's new. Also, the popup that tells you there's a new version available that randomly shows up over what you were trying to read. Just let me get on with my stuff, will you?

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

#154

One of the things that I like about Firefox is that it lets you right click on websites that disable right clicking by holding down shift. Reminds you that the browser should be the user's agent and not the website's.

It would be great if they allowed that for Ctrl+F as well. Jupyter Lab infuriates me with that.

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

#155

Chrome's sync also "just works" for me shrug

Yeah the whole premise here is that Chrome sync is broken. I'm not sure many people share that belief.

Love FF though. Maybe I'll go through another testing cycle with it and see if I just end up on Chrome again lol.

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

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post #128
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Yes, it just works; but a few days back all my devices suddenly lost almost all of the passwords. Not all but most of them, couldn't make out any pattern or reason. Luckily a Linux laptop that I don't usually use had the full set and I had to export them, sync, and import them back to restore everywhere. Very scary, any ideas why this could've happened? I immediately backed up for the future, but this kind of loss sh…

Weird, I'm using Firefox across 6 different devices, different OSes (Android, MacOS, various Linux distros) and different versions (current or LTS) and it just works .

Unfortunately my company blocks the sync password feature :-(

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

#158

Passwords belong in a dedicated password manager. Besides those, I don't understand what I'd want to sync. I've even disabled syncing tabs between sessions on the same machine. The last thing I need is for what I was doing yesterday to distract me from what I'm trying to do today. What I want in a browser is a dumb box that starts up as a blank slate every time, renders HTML and JavaScript, and is indistinguishable f…

I actually wish Mozilla put out a dedicated password manager.

They have Sync, and they have SoPS (or well, used to?).

I'd gladly pay extra for it

Re: Firefox Sync actually works

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Passwords belong in a dedicated password manager. Besides those, I don't understand what I'd want to sync. I've even disabled syncing tabs between sessions on the same machine. The last thing I need is for what I was doing yesterday to distract me from what I'm trying to do today. What I want in a browser is a dumb box that starts up as a blank slate every time, renders HTML and JavaScript, and is indistinguishable f…

The FF address bar is an extremely unappreciated and under-praised search apparatus. I use it wholesale, dozens of times a day, and it can almost completely replace bookmarks (if you have a memory for titles and keywords), so it has for me, but the whole conceit only works if you sync history.

Syncing bookmarks is similar in reasoning and just as valuable. Syncing history and bookmarks both and abusing the address bar's search feature means I can have a two-tiered sync system where things that get bookmarked become "read later, forget now" and things like a documentation page for an ORM's conventions don't need to be bookmarked and can still be near-instantly and directly visited.

Syncing browser settings and extensions makes setting up a new machine or reinstalling or whatever trivially easy. Firefox felt right on my new work machine in a couple minutes.

There's autocomplete for credit cards, personal details, and address information that you can manually curate and sync as well. I don't trust it with my CC info, but having Firefox (on all devices) know who I am and where I live has saved me three minutes here and there dozens of times.

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