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New U.S. immigration rules spur more visa approvals for STEM workers

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Or China. But yea. That is what probably happened.

China's wait times are nowhere near as long as the OPs.

Wow. I didn't realize China's backlog fell to 2 years.

Then again, I guess it makes sense. Both the US and China have made it much harder to leave China and enter the US now.

That is not great if we are in a talent Cold War with a near peer.

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>“You don’t have any accomplishments,” the lawyer told him. “You don’t have a patent, or even a product.” That scolding spurred Sanjay to make a list of what he needed to do to achieve his goal of staying permanently. He improved the technology his AI-based firm was developing, expanded its customer base, and filed for a U.S. patent, which was awarded earlier this year. In May those efforts paid off, allowing him to…

That is what parents are.

They're acquired either by huge companies for a defensive portfolio or by retired old men who get scammed by bottom feeding lawyers willing to file anything for their fee.

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> How many do you have? That seems like an odd retort to me. Like I have zero because I find the whole idea ethically dubious. When I was at IBM, they had occasional patent brainstorming meetings. I remember saying to one of the more senior engineers that everything I worked on was straightforward/obvious, and he told me I'd be surprised, which didn't do much to sway my thoughts on the ethics there. Everyone who had…

How is it an odd retort? If you haven't obtained a patent then the likelihood that you've actually gone through the patent procurement process with the USPTO is extremely low on this website. It's hackernews, not patentexaminernews or patentagentnews after all. It would be like me saying "designing your own operating system is easy" and having someone respond "how many OSes have you designed?" And by the way, your ow…

Not only is this unnecessarily hostile, but also easily refuted. Here's the process for software patents, which by the way some countries do not grant because it's such bullshit. Software "ideas" get written up and then transformed by a lawyer into incomprehensible legalese. Often to the point the "inventor" cannot understand them anymore. Sometimes, managers get added as "inventors". Then, the patent is submitted and iterated on until it gets accepted.

So the hard part is having enough money to pay a lawyer. And being morally opposed to patents, especially software patents, is a valid position.

Re: New U.S. immigration rules spur more visa approvals for STEM workers

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Watching friends work through the decades long journey of citizenship, going to prestigious undergrad institutions, getting PhDs, publishing in journals, teaching part-time while working full time in industry, all just to get the right to stay in the country they’ve lived since they were 18 is fucking depressing. I doubt I’d qualify for EB-1 [1]. I’d have qualified for EB-2 at 28 when I attained five years of work ex…

> Now this hypothetical version of myself waits as short as two years (China-born) and as long as eleven years (India-born) China and India are the outliers. For most people, pre-pandemic (and post financial meltdown), the wait was under 2 years - almost everyone I know got it in under 2 years (EB-2, MS or higher degree). If you weren't born in China/India, and had an "advanced degree" in a STEM field (i.e. MS or hig…

I suppose majority is factually true, but I think it’s worth being specific that nearly three billion people are in that situation.

Re: New U.S. immigration rules spur more visa approvals for STEM workers

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> The US is and always has been a country of immigrants. Your idea of who is and isn't an immigrant is simply a question of what time window you choose. In 1800, the US had a population of ~2 million. by 1900 it was ~50 million. You want to guess how itt got that way? Just because we needed and encouraged immigration 200 years ago doesn't mean we have a duty to never adjust policies based on current needs and realiti…

Most towns in this country outside of coastal cities that do have significant immigration are hollowed out. Look at St. Louis or countless other cities satellite imagery, and tell me its somehow prudent to have every other parcel abandoned and razed as if it were bombed during a war for lack of any population growth for a half century.

Did I make any comment about the current need for immigration? I was criticizing what I thought was a very weak argument.

Re: New U.S. immigration rules spur more visa approvals for STEM workers

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>“You don’t have any accomplishments,” the lawyer told him. “You don’t have a patent, or even a product.” That scolding spurred Sanjay to make a list of what he needed to do to achieve his goal of staying permanently. He improved the technology his AI-based firm was developing, expanded its customer base, and filed for a U.S. patent, which was awarded earlier this year. In May those efforts paid off, allowing him to…

That is what parents are. They're acquired either by huge companies for a defensive portfolio or by retired old men who get scammed by bottom feeding lawyers willing to file anything for their fee.

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Re: New U.S. immigration rules spur more visa approvals for STEM workers

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> The US is and always has been a country of immigrants. Your idea of who is and isn't an immigrant is simply a question of what time window you choose. In 1800, the US had a population of ~2 million. by 1900 it was ~50 million. You want to guess how itt got that way? Just because we needed and encouraged immigration 200 years ago doesn't mean we have a duty to never adjust policies based on current needs and realiti…

Pretty much every advanced economy is seeing stagnant population growth. Integrating immigrants is one of our most important skills and we need to keep practicing it.

Did I make any comment about the current need for immigration? I was criticizing what I thought was a very weak argument.

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> The US is and always has been a country of immigrants. Your idea of who is and isn't an immigrant is simply a question of what time window you choose. In 1800, the US had a population of ~2 million. by 1900 it was ~50 million. You want to guess how itt got that way? Just because we needed and encouraged immigration 200 years ago doesn't mean we have a duty to never adjust policies based on current needs and realiti…

Pretty much every advanced economy is seeing stagnant population growth. Integrating immigrants is one of our most important skills and we need to keep practicing it.

Or we could try and solve the issues that lead to stagnant population growth which mostly stem from lifestyle and financial choices.

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> a US citizen from the Midwest not getting it No offense, but maybe your resume didn't reflect that you had the skills required. The companies I worked at and now portfolio companies of mine pay Bay Area market rate to both citizens and non-citizens. We hire noncitizens because we didn't find the right talent we need.

> We hire noncitizens because we didn't find the right talent we need. (the right talent at the shit-level wage we want to pay) is more often than not the rest of that sentence.

$200-300k base with 15% annual bonus and equity ($300k-750k when I was working at public companies. I can't speak to my portfolio company's equity practices) is not a shit wage.

We needed people who understood stuff like XDP and worked on it for years.

The talent pool for low level development, OS Dev, cybersecurity, networking, and some parts of ML is sparse in the US compared to Israel, Eastern Europe, China, and India.

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