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New U.S. immigration rules spur more visa approvals for STEM workers

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Re: New U.S. immigration rules spur more visa approvals for STEM workers

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Post by dougmwne »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #3

>“You don’t have any accomplishments,” the lawyer told him. “You don’t have a patent, or even a product.” That scolding spurred Sanjay to make a list of what he needed to do to achieve his goal of staying permanently. He improved the technology his AI-based firm was developing, expanded its customer base, and filed for a U.S. patent, which was awarded earlier this year. In May those efforts paid off, allowing him to…

The patent office is always spammed with low quality “inventions”. The US patent system is in pretty desperate need of reform. The conversation with a few extra crappy patents is basically zero.

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Post by addicted »

lgleason wrote: post #4

Expect further downward pressure on US tech salaries.

Ah yes, the last 30 odd years of increasing immigration has exerted tremendous downward pressure on US tech salaries.

And countries in Europe that have not seen as much Tech immigration have seen huge boosts in Tech salaries. Comparable Europeans earn almost 1/3 - 1/2 what their American counterparts do today!

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Post by paulryanrogers »

satya71 wrote: post #6
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #3

>“You don’t have any accomplishments,” the lawyer told him. “You don’t have a patent, or even a product.” That scolding spurred Sanjay to make a list of what he needed to do to achieve his goal of staying permanently. He improved the technology his AI-based firm was developing, expanded its customer base, and filed for a U.S. patent, which was awarded earlier this year. In May those efforts paid off, allowing him to…

Not any more than other patent applicants. Currently all the layers in patent application process is incentivized to ignore quality. 1. Large companies pay a bonus for every patent applied and bigger one for approval. 2. Patent lawyers are paid for filed patents. 3. Patent office makes money on each patent. They view the review process as a cost center and optimize it for fast approval.

Outsourcing real approval to the courts, what could possibly go wrong?

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Post by dougmwne »

lgleason wrote: post #4

Expect further downward pressure on US tech salaries.

This affects very few immigrants of extraordinary ability. Such people are likely to be job creators with the companies and products they build. I agree that if we were to lift the cap on H-1b visas it could easily destroy tech salaries. Thankfully that’s not under consideration.

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Post by passwordoops »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #3

>“You don’t have any accomplishments,” the lawyer told him. “You don’t have a patent, or even a product.” That scolding spurred Sanjay to make a list of what he needed to do to achieve his goal of staying permanently. He improved the technology his AI-based firm was developing, expanded its customer base, and filed for a U.S. patent, which was awarded earlier this year. In May those efforts paid off, allowing him to…

Reply from non-USA who has worked in USA. Many companies already spam the patent office with low-quality/non-existent inventions. One put a quota on us for number of submissions, so that led to at least 200 a year from one firm knowing full well the vast majority would go nowhere. Another would file at least one with every product and delay the evaluation as long as possible to game the system so they could write "patent pending" and attach the veneer of innovation on the marketing material

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Post by ketzo »

lgleason wrote: post #4

Expect further downward pressure on US tech salaries.

Intuitively, yes; factually (looking at the last 30 years of tech), categorically false.

Tech begets tech, tech jobs beget tech jobs. Personally, I think we are not remotely close to “peak software” in particular.

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