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No new iPhone? No secure iOS: Looking at an unfixed iOS vulnerability

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Re: No new iPhone? No secure iOS: Looking at an unfixed iOS vulnerability

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> After contacting Apple […]

I’d be very curious to see HOW they contacted Apple. Depending on if you’re reaching out to security or just filing a standard radar I’d expect a very different answer.

Also, was it reported to the WebKit team? If that is where the bug is, perhaps that’s who should be taking the report?

Re: No new iPhone? No secure iOS: Looking at an unfixed iOS vulnerability

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What does this mean? It means they’re shoehorning another issue into this discussion.

I think it’s a completely valid point. Apple is still making (potentially a lot) of money off these old devices yet isn’t willing to fully support them. It seems very unethical.

  > seems very unethical
I agree. Clearly Apple should do the only ethical thing and immediately ban all unsupported devices from new App Store purchases.

When Apple announces this (very ethical) policy change, I expect you to full-throatedly defend Apple from the mass shrieking cries of "but muh planned obsolescence!!" Right? Right?? ;-)

In fact, one could argue it's also "very unethical" for Apple to (negligently) allow someone to use a potentially unsafe or hackable product. To be maximally ethical, Apple should be remotely bricking any Apple device the day it loses security support. Better to be on the safe ("ethical") side and remote wipe too, to protect people's data privacy.

Can you see how Argument From I Merely Assert XYZ Is Unethical Then Demand Some Arbitrary Relief can quickly break down?

Re: No new iPhone? No secure iOS: Looking at an unfixed iOS vulnerability

#54

The iPhone 8 was sold new less than 3 years ago. Okay, new features shouldn't be expected, but patching known vulnerabilities should be required.

What does the iPhone 8 have to do with this discussion?

The linked piece specifically refers to iPhone 6S and iOS 15.8.

Re: No new iPhone? No secure iOS: Looking at an unfixed iOS vulnerability

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That is why I am an android dude, you will always find a random ROM on xda with the latest android security patch and sometimes even the latest android version on devices 10+ years old even if the manufacturer has stopped supporting it a while ago.

Not going to lie, if I were trying to infect some devices, it might be through “porting” unofficial “patches” (that no one will ever realistically inspect) for 10+ year old, out-of-support devices whose users have allowed root access.

Re: No new iPhone? No secure iOS: Looking at an unfixed iOS vulnerability

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

App Store purchases aren't tied to a particular device; you can buy an app on an old device and keep using it when you get a newer device. Do you have a coherent, reasonable suggestion for how Apple could modify their business model without completely breaking it, or are you just desperate to shoehorn complaints about the App Store fees into the conversation?

Easy: offer a discount if purchase is made on an unsupported device, just like how grocery stores offer discounts for food that's about to expire. I don't think there is a real concern about app store economics collapsing, the app marketplace business is very lucrative. We can see this in related cases: you can avoid certain iOS taxes by purchasing your subscriptions on the web: Twitter Blue is $11 on iOS and $8 on t…

Your purchases carry forward to newer devices, no? If nothing else, people would keep an older device just to make purchases and then install it on their newer iPhone.
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