The New York Times is suing OpenAI and Microsoft for copyright infringement

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Dec 28, 2023, 1:48 AM UTC

MeImCounting wrote: post #613

DamnInteresting wrote: post #601

I have deeply mixed feelings about the way LLMs slurp up copyrighted content and regurgitate it as something "new." As a software developer who has dabbled in machine learning, it is exciting to see the field progress. But I am also an author with a large catalog of writings, and my work has been captured by at least one LLM (according to a tool that can allegedly detect these things). Overall, current LLMs remind me…

Ehh LLMs have become a fundamental part of my work flow as a professional. GPT4 is absolutely capable of providing links to sources and citations. It is more reliable than most human teachers I have had and doesnt have an ego about its incorrect statements when challenged on them. It does become less useful as you get more technical or niche but its incredibly useful for learning in new areas or increasing the breadt…

Post by __loam » Thu, Dec 28, 2023, 1:56 AM UTC

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"probably the single most important development in human history" is the kind of hyperbole you'd only find here. Better than medicine, agriculture, electrification, or music? That point of view simply does not jive with what I see so far from AI. It has had little impact beyond filling the internet with low-effort content. I feel like the crypto evangelists never got off the hype train. They just picked a new destina…

Also the assumption a publication that’s been around for 150 years is disposable, not the web application that was created a year ago. I’ve been saying for a while that people’s credulity and impulse to believe absolutely any storyline related to technology is off the charts.

Post by __loam » Thu, Dec 28, 2023, 2:03 AM UTC

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Can I ask what industries with what application? I've seen lots of task like summarizing articles or producing text. The image and video work seems too rudimentary to be taken seriously. Is there something out there that seems like a killer application? I was amazed at the idea of the block chain but we never found a use for it outside of cryptocurrency. I see a similariy with AI hype.

For me, thinking about it as a search engine on steroids is enough. The internet has changed the world. Economically, socially, technologically, psychologically, pretty much everything is now related to it in one or other way, in this sense the internet is comparable to books. AI is another step in that direction. There is a very real possibility that the day will come when you can get, say, personalized expert nutri…

Post by bitsage » Thu, Dec 28, 2023, 2:21 AM UTC

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The fact that copyright protection is far too long is entirely separate from the need for some kind of copyright protection to exist at all. All evidence suggests that it's completely impossible to live off your work unless you copyright it for some reasonable period, with the possible exception of performance art (music, theater, ballet). A writer or journalist just can't make money if any huge company can package t…

> All evidence suggests that it's completely impossible to live off your work unless you copyright it for some reasonable period Which evidence?

Post by lacrimacida » Thu, Dec 28, 2023, 2:32 AM UTC

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Why don’t they train their AI on non-copyrighted material? It’s only fair for the copyright owners to want a share of the pie. I’d want one as well for my work.

Because they wouldn't have enough good quality training data then probably.