The last time I kept a timesheet that was more than pro-forma, I was a proofreader. I think that I was managing six or six and a half hours during an eight hour day, and I was told that I kept busier than most.
It's All Bullshit
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Re: It's All Bullshit
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
> evolved enough to be totally okay Why would an "evolved" person be ok with it?
Word choice is hard. I know that people who succeed in non-monogamous romantic relationships often need to do a lot of work to get to the point where they are happy when their loved ones are happy, instead of eaten alive by jealousy. I'm just saying that I haven't yet fully matured in my own development such that I would be totally fine with my FTEs having other full-time engagements, even if they were completely tra…
Hmmm, if someone has another "full time" job then they're being dishonest with you and should be treated as such.
Rewarding dishonesty doesn't seem like a wise plan.
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Not sure why you're equating romantic relationships to the workplace, as they're completely separate domains with no cross over of "monogamous" with "full time employment".
Hopefully no-ones been playing with your head to make you think otherwise. :/
Re: It's All Bullshit
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Word choice is hard. I know that people who succeed in non-monogamous romantic relationships often need to do a lot of work to get to the point where they are happy when their loved ones are happy, instead of eaten alive by jealousy. I'm just saying that I haven't yet fully matured in my own development such that I would be totally fine with my FTEs having other full-time engagements, even if they were completely tra…
Hmmm, if someone has another "full time" job then they're being dishonest with you and should be treated as such. Rewarding dishonesty doesn't seem like a wise plan. --- Not sure why you're equating romantic relationships to the workplace, as they're completely separate domains with no cross over of "monogamous" with "full time employment". Hopefully no-ones been playing with your head to make you think otherwise. :/
Hey, you're welcome to your thoughts and opinions but, well, you asked. I was trying to give you a different mental model to help visualize why I said what I said.
If you can't or won't acknowledge the conceptual similarity between monogamy and full time employment, knowing that I'm explicitly not speaking literally... then I'm probably not the business mentor that you're looking for.
Re: It's All Bullshit
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hmmm, if someone has another "full time" job then they're being dishonest with you and should be treated as such. Rewarding dishonesty doesn't seem like a wise plan. --- Not sure why you're equating romantic relationships to the workplace, as they're completely separate domains with no cross over of "monogamous" with "full time employment". Hopefully no-ones been playing with your head to make you think otherwise. :/
Hey, you're welcome to your thoughts and opinions but, well, you asked. I was trying to give you a different mental model to help visualize why I said what I said. If you can't or won't acknowledge the conceptual similarity between monogamy and full time employment, knowing that I'm explicitly not speaking literally... then I'm probably not the business mentor that you're looking for.
> the conceptual similarity between monogamy and full time employment
They'd only be similar if you don't understand what makes non-monogamy dangerous unless both partners are getting satisfaction from multiple sources.
If both partners are, then the whole jealousy concern you mention doesn't become a thing (baring mental issues).
As employment (full time or otherwise) doesn't have drivers that work anything like that, there's not enough similarity to really apply lessons from the romantic domain to it.
Well, maybe at a really high abstraction level somehow... :)
> I'm probably not the business mentor that you're looking for.
Thanks, I'm really not looking. ;)
Re: It's All Bullshit
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had the interesting experience of working with a non-tech team for a short period a while ago. I could not believe the pace and lax attitude to work these people had. When work _was_ done, it was done in the most unoptimised, short-term-thinking way possible. There was seemingly no concern for quality of output (almost presumed that they'd have to do the task again), and deadlines were a vague fairy tale. Most of t…
It's not split at tech/non-tech. I'm happy to recommend construction crews you can tag along with for a day that will leave you a broken mess of a man with how hard they work. You won't get out of bed for a forthnight after one day of work with proper roofers. My maid works 16-hour days at breakneck speed as well, with a smile on her face. Sleeps 3 hours, gets on with life. I don't know how she does it. Likewise I've…
You're not wrong there. On further reflection I see it's not tech per se, but maybe more broadly; jobs people didn't choose, but ended up in. If you weren't interested enough to choose your job, then obviously you won't have motivation to do it well.
Go hang around with your finance, HR, or even sales teams. It's incredible.
Re: It's All Bullshit
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not split at tech/non-tech. I'm happy to recommend construction crews you can tag along with for a day that will leave you a broken mess of a man with how hard they work. You won't get out of bed for a forthnight after one day of work with proper roofers. My maid works 16-hour days at breakneck speed as well, with a smile on her face. Sleeps 3 hours, gets on with life. I don't know how she does it. Likewise I've…
You're not wrong there. On further reflection I see it's not tech per se, but maybe more broadly; jobs people didn't choose, but ended up in. If you weren't interested enough to choose your job, then obviously you won't have motivation to do it well. Go hang around with your finance, HR, or even sales teams. It's incredible.
You're definitely on to something with the 'interest' angle. I've seen the same thing in tech people working for extremely non-tech businesses for sure.
I guess some amount of the population is just not that interested in work! Which is fine by me but I do hope they find fulfilment elsewhere.
Re: It's All Bullshit
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
> My maid works 16-hour days at breakneck speed as well, with a smile on her face. Sleeps 3 hours, gets on with life. I don't know how she does it. Have you considered not working your maid to death?
I'm responsible for ~6 hours per day out of that schedule. I pay above market for those hours, but she chooses/needs to work this many hours for her own reasons. I'd never think someone could be happy or productive spending most of their waking hours working, but here we are. I'm sure she's at least a 1.5x maid compared to your average worker, too.
No judgement intended, but why do you have a maid for 6 hours per day? Unless they're doing child-raising duties as well?