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Apple is officially no longer selling the newest Apple Watch in America

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Re: Apple is officially no longer selling the newest Apple Watch in America

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I can't decide if I'd be a fool to buy an Apple Watch right now. I'm ready for an upgrade, but I fear what happens long term if hardware changes are necessary.

Apple has increasingly moved towards a disposable tech paradigm. They seem to want, expect, and maybe even contrive a reason for you to throw away your device and buy a new one every year.

Apple does a better job than most at supporting older devices.

Re: Apple is officially no longer selling the newest Apple Watch in America

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Why doesn't Apple enter into a deal with Masimo for a small percentage of the watch? Unless I missed it, the news article didn't go into more detail on why a deal couldn't be made.

There was another article with this quote[0]: > “If they don’t want to use our chip, I’ll work with them to make their product good,” Mr. Kiani said. “Once it’s good enough, I’m happy to give them a license.” It sounds like they didn't just want some money. They wanted them to use their chip or partner with them. I am no Apple fan, but telling them to politely fuck off seems reasonable to me. [0] https://www.nytimes.…

The way I read this is, Masimo does not have confidence in the way Apple has implemented the technology and they don't want their name attached to a bad implementation.

So they are giving Apple the choice of either buying a turnkey solution or partner with them to fix Apple's flawed implementation.

Re: Apple is officially no longer selling the newest Apple Watch in America

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>> As a small shop, I am particularly afraid of trolls shutting us down overnight with basically no recourse. I be more scared of non-trolls who own giant catalogues of patents. The giant companies will shut you down just as fast as any "troll". Try to invent any device with a touchscreen and an internet connection. It won't be trolls knocking on your door, but lawyers from Samsung, Apple and Microsoft.

How do companies like FairPhone exist then?

I assume by a combination of:

- Not a serious competitor

- Based in Europe

- Bad PR to shut down a company trying to create a cruelty-free smartphone

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Apple's mobile "privacy" features are about monopolizing advertising on their mobile products so that Apple is now the number one iOS advertising company.

Id go the whole way and say that their entire walled garden ecosystem is designed to do this as well. Most Apple device users that I have spoken to have absolutely no idea how much it makes from advertising inside its own services. https://www.wired.co.uk/article/apple-is-an-ad-company-now

That’s isolated to the App Store and News app, exactly where you would expect it.

Re: Apple is officially no longer selling the newest Apple Watch in America

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Apple has increasingly moved towards a disposable tech paradigm. They seem to want, expect, and maybe even contrive a reason for you to throw away your device and buy a new one every year.

They tend to support their old devices for 5-10 years

Exactly. I don't know where people get this about Apple. There are so many things that one could criticize Apple about, but older hardware support is not one of them

Re: Apple is officially no longer selling the newest Apple Watch in America

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Two words: "rounded corners"

That and patenting the finger swipe are two of the most egregious hypocrisies of Apple's patent lawsuits. However it's really the USPTO that is to blame. IIRC if you're big enough you can just bully the patent office until they acquiesce. USPTO needs to learn how to say no, even to big corporations. Which makes me wonder: Imagine if USPTO published statistics that enumerated patents that a company applied for and wer…

Plenty of iPod patents including their iPod data cable should be expired now with finger swipe expiring soon.

But yeah 20 years can be a long time.

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While not "sue-ing" but instead the other way - being trying to avoid paying for patented tech. They tried to stop paying licenses for their PowerVR-derived GPUs, which they were explicitly developed from so no "convergent evolution" excuses. Announcing it to the market then caused a massive abandonment of PowerVR and stock price drop, and purchase at fire sale prices by a Chinese "Strategic investment" group. It nev…

Foxconn and TSMC have good businesses on being suppliers to Apple. Sharp too until they got acquired by Foxconn.

I might expand this to "Being a Tech supplier to Apple is a mistake" - they seem quite happy with exporting their labor-intensive costs, and whitewashing themselves of any "questionable" activities in the process.

TSMC is an interesting one, as they're pretty much the only person who have made that business model work, and even Apple's total business in that area is smaller than their scale seems to require.

Re: Apple is officially no longer selling the newest Apple Watch in America

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Absolutely no sympathy. Those who live by the patent shall die by the patent.

What’s the alternative? Not play the patent game and die by the patent anyway?

Open source patents, like Tesla does.

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Patents can't be circumvented with the "Chinese wall" idea that happens with copyright-based reverse engineering. There is no alternative to licensing if you want to use a technology.

Oh it’s for copyright only. So what legal standing does Apple have and why didn’t they just pay the licensing fee? Unless they wanted litigation to go after these type of patents being sealed off?

Apple can attack the patent as being invalid (and go for an IPR), they can argue that they are not infringing, or they can pay a license fee. My guess is that Apple was too cheap to pay an acceptable license fee, so they figured they could strongarm this company in court.

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They faced internal pressure from employees as I remember it. They shutdown their Chinese sites after the PLA was caught hacking Gmail accounts in Hong Kong, but this was when Paige and Sergey were more involved (being from formerly authoritarian communist countries).

You didn’t bother to search, so let me paste the relevant content for you here: > The Dragonfly project was an Internet search engine prototype created by Google that was designed to be compatible with China's state censorship provisions. > The public learned of Dragonfly's existence in August 2018, when The Intercept leaked an internal memo written by a Google employee about the project. > […] > However, according t…

None of that conflicts with what I said.
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