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Re: Flare, a video sharing site built on Nostr

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My quasi-skeptic approach to cryptocurrency: - Build it without crypto - If you build it with crypto, base it off Bitcoin. Anything else might as well be a product based on a pump-and-dump shitcoin. There is only one cryptocurrency, and Satoshi is its prophet.

Agreed, though Satoshi isn't a prophet or messiah. Just a pseudonym.

It was a tongue-in-cheek reference to There is only one God and Muhammad is its prophet.

Re: Flare, a video sharing site built on Nostr

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Nostr has numerous NIPs or Nostr implementation possibilities many of which address the concerns below: - nsec: a user name / password option has been created- although I think there are numerous “normies” who go are over the password login pattern - moderation: at least two clients have implemented moderation NIPs and open sourced their code for expanding the capabilities - CSAM: there are separate services that host media content and partner with CSAm filtering tools to provide the basic filtering you would receive on FB etc. - a few clients offer delete - and while nothing ever truly goes away, it can be helpful if the trolls come after someone. - in terms of the content, you already curate some of your other feeds by following and unfollowing people or brands, yes there is a lot of bitcoin content but you can optimize your feed to see other types of content.

Re: Flare, a video sharing site built on Nostr

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post #121

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From what I understand of nostr, if there is CP or hate speech etc. the relays would be incentivised to remove it in the same way say a collection of PHPBB forums would be if someone uploaded it there. Not sure on the legalities though, in terms of if the relays are liable. Not sure if all relays would support video. So to be guaranteed to keep your video you would need ti self host. Which is technical and/or a month…

Relay liability is going to depend on knowledge. What’s going to happen in practice is that someone at, say, the FBI gets a lead that something prohibited is being accessed in some group and they’re going to look for evidence. If your IP serves them anything dodgy, they’re not going to roll the SWAT team (probably) but they’re going to see if they can find evidence that you are an active participant before they conta…

Images are not stored on relays, so they would not be targeted. The image hosts have the liability, not nostr.

Re: Flare, a video sharing site built on Nostr

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There are no algos. You are supposed to curate your feed. Global is there just for convenience. Mute that npub and you won’t see any of this again.

Sure, but that's a different thing than what I said. It doesn't matter that there's no algorithm. It is just interesting to me that outlandish Christian conspiracies about the end of the world/angels/etc. are almost immediately being uploaded to a brand-new platform. That has nothing to do with how content is delivered?

But that doesn't reflect on the platform. It's just the next random thing uploaded.

In case you think nostr is saturated with "outlandish Christian conspiracies about the end of the world/angels/etc", I've been on nostr more than a year and have encountered exactly zero of them.

Re: Flare, a video sharing site built on Nostr

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I didn't know what nostr was, so I clicked the link[1] and I found this gem: > Because Nostr accounts are based on public-key cryptography it's easy to verify messages were really sent by the user in question. If you think asymmetric encryption makes anything easy , you're missing the point. If you have a reliable way to know other peoples public keys, and there's a way to repudiate them, asymmetric encryption can ma…

I half agree, and half disagree. I agree that users need some kind of management tools to deal with public key crypto, shouldn't be copying private keys into apps, and there needs to be recovery from lost keys. It is a hard problem and nostr has a long ways to go.

I disagree that you need a "reliable way to know other peoples public keys." I think this puts the cart before the horse. And doing it that way, public certification authorities who say "I certify this key belongs to this person" can't be trusted anyways, so it doesn't really work (and as people do trust them for practical reasons, but shouldn't, they have enabled widespread TLS MitM by governments). It is rarely the case that you know someone and then you discover someone claiming to be them and you need them to prove their identity (which is BTW totally possible in nostr already). What usually happens is you learn the key first, and over time learn who that person is and develop intuition and trust about them through experiences that occurred via that key.

Re: Flare, a video sharing site built on Nostr

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>How is the infrastructure and bandwidth paid for? For bandwidth intensive usage such as video, it will probably be "paid relays" instead of free ones. Click on url in the "Popular paid relays" paragraph to see examples: https://nostr.how/en/relays Nostr is popular with the cryptocurrency community so the payment mechanics seem to favor Bitcoin and/or Bitcoin Lightning.

Nostr is only popular with Bitcoin maxis. Nobody else cares about Nostr.

Right. And that is why Stella Assange and Matt Taibbi are on there... because they are bitcoin maxis. /s

Re: Flare, a video sharing site built on Nostr

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> decentralized anything never works at scale I'm pretty impressed by this thing called 'the internet'.

While your point is valid, I think the "propagate all ledger entries to all nodes" kind of decentralized is different than the "route around broken nodes" kind of decentralized. I'm guessing GP meant the former not the latter.

That's not actually how Nostr works. It is a hub (relay) and spoke (client) architecture where clients can connect and publish to N relays. No ledger and no propagation.

Re: Flare, a video sharing site built on Nostr

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post #89

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It's so off putting I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. I wouldn't even curiously browse a landing page of an otherwise interesting project beyond the point I notice that something is mildly "cryptocurrency-adjacent", or it becomes obvious that it has involvement from devs who also enjoy working on blockchains. Thanks for the heads up.

Same sentiment here. Something to compete with YouTube would be great but I'm not going anywhere near anything crypto related, the whole ecosystem stinks to me.

I can honestly report that big majority of Nostr users are very much against "crypto". Just ask on nostr "Do people here support crypto and all the various blockchains?" and you will see for yourself.
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