I know there's no market for people like me, but I would never buy an internet connected car. It just seems so fucking insane to me that people are willing to accept relying on something that can be bricked remotely. Same goes for any sort of involuntary OTA updates to anything, and software as a service in general. The thing that matters to me is that my tools still work tomorrow when I need them to, and if they break it'd better be my fucking fault. We live in fucking clown world. Thank god you can still perma disable windows update, having a cell phone that breaks itself every few months is bad enough.
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#12I wish someone would make a truly dumb car. Sure you can have microcontrollers for emissions, safety, etc but beyond that give me a 1970s user interface and make the car as independent of technology as possible.
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#13What brand of car? So I know what to avoid?
In the centre over the phone number is "Ford Customer Relationship Center". So I guess it's a Ford.
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#14I wish someone would make a truly dumb car. Sure you can have microcontrollers for emissions, safety, etc but beyond that give me a 1970s user interface and make the car as independent of technology as possible.
100% this, an electric car could be so reliable and simple to work on and repair if we wanted it to be.
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#15I wish someone would make a truly dumb car. Sure you can have microcontrollers for emissions, safety, etc but beyond that give me a 1970s user interface and make the car as independent of technology as possible.
Nissan Versa. It’s also one of the cheapest cars available.
Enjoy
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#16It’s a bit troubling that automakers (and, well, anyone who is building things that have mechanisms for software updates) aren’t making software updates failsafe. If you have multiple copies of the image on storage, and you take care not to touch the currently-running image, then a failed software update to the alternate image shouldn’t have any impact. Think of it like blue-green deployments on the cloud; and it’s what TiVo was doing with software updates to their DVRs all the way back in the late 1990s.
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#17I wish someone would make a truly dumb car. Sure you can have microcontrollers for emissions, safety, etc but beyond that give me a 1970s user interface and make the car as independent of technology as possible.
That's why I have kept my '97 dodge dakota all this time... Like you said, dumb, but also using standard components like headlamp bulbs for repair-ability.
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#18What brand of car? So I know what to avoid?
Looks like the Ford Mach E screen
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#19I know there's no market for people like me, but I would never buy an internet connected car. It just seems so fucking insane to me that people are willing to accept relying on something that can be bricked remotely. Same goes for any sort of involuntary OTA updates to anything, and software as a service in general. The thing that matters to me is that my tools still work tomorrow when I need them to, and if they bre…
You'll change your mind the first time you turn on the heat from across the parking lot while sipping coffee in the ski lodge, or need to check the charge status while eating lunch, or point stuff out on the satellite imagery on the live map.
I know it's easy to imagine that the product you think is "a car" is finished, but product categories evolve. People want their devices to do different things today than they did 20 years ago, and next year will be more changes. Connectivity isn't going away, the market has spoken.
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#20I wish someone would make a truly dumb car. Sure you can have microcontrollers for emissions, safety, etc but beyond that give me a 1970s user interface and make the car as independent of technology as possible.
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