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#42
Why do I care about this?

Commercial blogs have been posting stuff under fake bylines forever. I remember sites in the 90s that had non-existent people would write out random promotional blargh.

Am I supposed to expect that B&H has artistic integrity or something? They’re just a gear vendor. I don’t care if their guides are written by AI or JK Rowling as long as they help me pick out a lense or whatever.

Re: B&H Photo Published an AI-Generated Guide Written by a Fake Person

#43

>Multiple companies have toyed with the idea of using AI to generate stories, all of whom have been widely panned for the decision. G/O Media (which operates Gizmodo and Kotaku) attempted it earlier this year, the result of which was error-riddled pieces and widespread pushback from its staff. The company plans to move forward with AI authors despite this. Gannett, which operates USA Today, also attempted it but pull…

If websites do this too much they'll just disappear. Why go to the website if I can get the answer from an LLM.

The same way most simple apps will probably not be needed if the Operating System can just conjure them on the fly.

"Give me a calculator app that includes a button for conversion to ternary"

Is the same as "Give me an app that every day will send me an expert article about Photography topics, keeping it varied so I learn about many aspects".

If something can be produced very cheaply by a website owner it can also be produced by the user for their own consumption.

Re: B&H Photo Published an AI-Generated Guide Written by a Fake Person

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> When reached for comment, a B&H representative claimed the company’s policy was not to use AI-generated content and that it would “investigate this matter with our content teams.” Shortly thereafter, the article and profile were deleted. But for a month, the story remained online and positioned itself as an expert guide written by a real person and visitors to the blog would have been none the wiser. Seems like a s…

At first, I figured that's the explanation, but you're ignoring a more puzzling statement in the article: > To explain how an AI-generated story written by an AI-generated person was published despite this policy, B&H says it was part of a “test” to identify and protect against such content. > “Our editors wrote a test article in mid-November as part of their efforts to identify and protect against AI-generated conte…

Also they tried to report it but their dog ate the form.

Re: B&H Photo Published an AI-Generated Guide Written by a Fake Person

#45

Note that it was a single article, B&H claims it was an accident and they deleted it since then. > “Our editors wrote a test article in mid-November as part of their efforts to identify and protect against AI-generated content. They overlooked adding disclosure to the article indicating that it was AI-generated, which was a mistake, and did not delete the article after the test.”

"Sorry we got caught."

Re: B&H Photo Published an AI-Generated Guide Written by a Fake Person

#46

> When reached for comment, a B&H representative claimed the company’s policy was not to use AI-generated content and that it would “investigate this matter with our content teams.” Shortly thereafter, the article and profile were deleted. But for a month, the story remained online and positioned itself as an expert guide written by a real person and visitors to the blog would have been none the wiser. Seems like a s…

At first, I figured that's the explanation, but you're ignoring a more puzzling statement in the article: > To explain how an AI-generated story written by an AI-generated person was published despite this policy, B&H says it was part of a “test” to identify and protect against such content. > “Our editors wrote a test article in mid-November as part of their efforts to identify and protect against AI-generated conte…

So, someone had an assignment to write an article, found this on Google Drive (or some other document management system), and hit publish?

IDK, it all seems fairly plausible to me.

Re: B&H Photo Published an AI-Generated Guide Written by a Fake Person

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> whatever ideals journalism may have aspired to in the past no longer exist (if they ever even existed in the past) This is when I like to remind people that if you do a good enough job at journalism, you get an award named after a pioneer of sensationalistic “yellow journalism” who propagandized to start the Spanish-American War: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Pulitzer

> like to remind people Is this phrase used figuratively, or are there actual times when you've exercised this preference upon someone? I think if you said that to me, in a tone which implied you were enjoying saying it, I'd probably ask you why it's relevant. For example, can you demonstrate that Pulitzer Prizes are generally awarded to "yellow journalists"? Or can you show how the recipients of the prize are in any…

Thank you! I was just watching Oppenheimer yesterday, and cringed at the part where he points out that Alfred Nobel invited dynamite as a reason he might get the award for the A bomb. It's a silly idea. As you put it, it's a quirk of history. Interesting, but not relevant.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> whatever ideals journalism may have aspired to in the past no longer exist (if they ever even existed in the past) This is when I like to remind people that if you do a good enough job at journalism, you get an award named after a pioneer of sensationalistic “yellow journalism” who propagandized to start the Spanish-American War: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Pulitzer

Don't forget about the Nobel Peace Prize named after Alfred Nobel: The inventor of dynamite. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Nobel From the link: "There is a well known story about the origin of the Nobel Prize, although historians have been unable to verify it and some dismiss the story as a myth. In 1888, the death of his brother Ludvig supposedly caused several newspapers to publish obituaries of Alfred…

To be fair to Nobel, dynamite has plenty of peaceful engineering applications, and its invention did represent an important innovation. If this story is true, it probably says more about the nature of journalism than the nature of dynamite.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> whatever ideals journalism may have aspired to in the past no longer exist (if they ever even existed in the past) This is when I like to remind people that if you do a good enough job at journalism, you get an award named after a pioneer of sensationalistic “yellow journalism” who propagandized to start the Spanish-American War: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Pulitzer

> like to remind people Is this phrase used figuratively, or are there actual times when you've exercised this preference upon someone? I think if you said that to me, in a tone which implied you were enjoying saying it, I'd probably ask you why it's relevant. For example, can you demonstrate that Pulitzer Prizes are generally awarded to "yellow journalists"? Or can you show how the recipients of the prize are in any…

The Pulitzer Prize is supposed to be awarded to journalists whose work is actually good for society in some way, rather than simply churning out sensationalist content for crass commercial or ulterior political motives, and yet it's named after someone whose entire career was driven by the exact opposite motivations. It's funny, much like it would be funny to name a human rights award after Idi Amin. And it answers the implied question I quoted at the beginning of the post--that the "ideals" that journalism "may have aspired to in the past" did not, in fact, exist.

Re: B&H Photo Published an AI-Generated Guide Written by a Fake Person

#50
I worked at another retail site. We were also looking at doing this with SEO purposes. Whatever they were using to generate the articles was picked up by Google I assume because those pages were never indexed. It was also a secret from the ten person team they had turning out copy for seo blog articles.

The crazy thing was that whole section of the site was getting maybe a thousand views per hour on a site that got seven figure hits a day. Most employees didn't even realize it existed. The amount of money burned on it attempting to chase SEO was crazy.

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