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Ubuntu 12.04 Review: This is the Distro you’re looking for.

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Re: Ubuntu 12.04 Review: This is the Distro you’re looking for.

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Post by onli »

ditoa wrote: post #76
cturner wrote: post #41

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Firefox is an interesting example, because on little things it behaves differently in windows to linux. For example - double click the address bar in Windows - highlights a token. Do it in linux, highlights the whole link.

Yeah Fx is annoying with its inconsistent defaults between platforms. The one you mention is because browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll is set to true on Windows but False on Linux. Why I have no idea!

I can't know for sure that it is intended because of this, but it is a good default for linux because of the way copy & paste works. Not to select the whole link enables you to copy something by selecting it, change the url, go to that page and insert the prior copied text with the middle mouse button. The windows-setting is wrong in that context, disabling that workflow, even though it's inconsistent between platforms. Sometimes that's a good thing.

Re: Ubuntu 12.04 Review: This is the Distro you’re looking for.

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Post by viraptor »

cobychapple wrote: post #22
stock_toaster wrote: post #2

> The short version: Ubuntu 12.04 is the best release they’ve ever had and > absolutely blows the upcoming releases of Windows and MacOS X out of the > water in just about every way that matters. The second half of that statement may be a touch hyperbolic.

When I read this article, I was open to hearing how this could be the case, but then I read: "Working with Ubuntu 12.04 is quite simple and elegant… until you want to sit down and see what applications are available on your system." Which sounds like it really doesn't blow anything out of the water. Then I also read: "click the “Ubuntu” button in the top left, then click the little white icon on the bottom center tha…

Criticism takes more space and attention than good things. When you like something, you just do. Maybe there are a couple of things that you really really like and you can write about them.

On the other hand things that don't work as you expect have some story to it - why don't you like them, what else did you expect, who does it properly, how is it affecting your workflow, how much you dislike that problem. I expect things like that to affect most reviews...

Re: Ubuntu 12.04 Review: This is the Distro you’re looking for.

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Post by moonhead »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #78
sharms wrote: post #33

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Let me offset that with a different view: I have bought 4[1] different laptops over the past month, running Ubuntu 12.04 on them. One of my key tests was plugging in my external HDMI monitor, in which it worked for all of them. In all seriousness, if this is happening to you send me a private message and we can look over your specs and dig into what could be causing it. [1] HP Envy 15 3033, Acer S3, Asus TimelineX, M…

How is Ubuntu on Macbook Pro? I'll be in the market for a new laptop soon, and MBP is a consideration, but I'd like to dual boot Ubuntu (using Basecamp?). Seems there was some issue with BIOS and bootstrapping, is that solved now?

i'm dual booting 12.04 and lion on my late 2011 macbook air. very simple. install refit in OSX. you may have to reboot several times or do a complete shutdown before the refit bootloader will show up. then it will be a very familiar install from there. you can use the mac disk utility to partition your drive beforehand. i haven't tried bootcamp, so i can't comment about that.

Re: Ubuntu 12.04 Review: This is the Distro you’re looking for.

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Post by swah »

rbanffy wrote: post #65
swah wrote: post #23

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That are those alternatives, and I's rooting for linux, but t until you don't have to think about changing your window manager it can't win. Also, since I deploy Ubuntu I would like to work on Ubuntu (apt-get).

> but t until you don't have to think about changing your window manager it can't win. What is the value of "win" in the above sentence? Because for me it's much more useful than either Windows or OSX for development. It won me for package management and for being very similar to the actual deployment environment. Even changing the desktop environment is easy - an "apt-get install" does the trick. I don't care about…

Sure, me too. Without the graphical part, Ubuntu/Debian is perfect, since several years.

win = "Microsoft and OSX should really step up their OSes otherwise Ubuntu is gonna leave them behind" like that guy said.

Re: Ubuntu 12.04 Review: This is the Distro you’re looking for.

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

ced wrote: post #69
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #46

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> I do not want to use Wine emulator or whatever the hell you gotta do to get stuff working under Ubuntu Why don't you want to use it? Using Wine is as simple as double-clicking a Windows EXE and letting it install or run. It's no more difficult than using software on Windows (usually) And sorry to nitpick, but WINE stands for "WINE Is Not an Emulator", because it isn't :)

I'm a long-time Ubuntu user, and I use Wine only when I absolutely have to, because it most definitely does not "just work". Case in point, GP was talking about Photoshop. This is from Wine's page for CS3: First off: don't expect this to work well. Wine does not yet support Photoshop CS3. Only read these instructions if you feel like fiddling around, not if you expect to get a working Photoshop. The other versions lo…

Yeah, I've used Ubuntu myself for a while. I'm aware of Wine's problems, I meant that for smaller applications it usually works.

Re: Ubuntu 12.04 Review: This is the Distro you’re looking for.

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Post by bigphishy »

demetris wrote: post #20
stock_toaster wrote: post #2

> The short version: Ubuntu 12.04 is the best release they’ve ever had and > absolutely blows the upcoming releases of Windows and MacOS X out of the > water in just about every way that matters. The second half of that statement may be a touch hyperbolic.

It says more about the quality of the review than about the relative merits of the 3 systems. These things are simple: If Ubuntu were so much better, or just plain better, than other operating systems, more people would use it. Firefox is, and has been for a long time, much better than IE, and so people use it. OpenOffice/LibreOffice is not better than Microsoft Office, and so people don’t prefer it over Microsoft Of…

Firefox has also been out a long time.

When FF was in beta versions it was already a better browser than IE, but nearly no one knew of it, therefore FF had a small number of users. As awareness of FF grew, so did its popularity.

It is silly to judge the quality of a product or service by the number of people that use it.

Re: Ubuntu 12.04 Review: This is the Distro you’re looking for.

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Post by bigphishy »

dhughes wrote: post #56
bho wrote: post #27

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The cost of switching is a high barrier for many people. Changing from Windows to Ubuntu requires you to find equivalents for all of the software you need. Changing from your browser -> Firefox = most websites will still work, no additional effort on anyone. Changing from Microsoft Office to OpenOffice forces you to ensure all the documents open correctly and others can open yours correctly. It's not always so black…

I agree but some people still see Internet Explorer as "the Internet" and I would say can't fathom how you use other browsers. Those same people may also believe Windows is what a computer is.

I couldn't have said that better myself.

Re: Ubuntu 12.04 Review: This is the Distro you’re looking for.

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Post by SpaceDragon »

keithpeter wrote: post #14

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8403291/1204-poster-4.pdf I did this poster aimed at end users going from Ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04, just in case it helps anyone who is supporting end users. The best way to explore Unity is to click around of course.

Beautiful Keith. This should help me transition back to Ubuntu. Thanks!

Re: Ubuntu 12.04 Review: This is the Distro you’re looking for.

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Post by eslachance »

demetris wrote: post #68
bho wrote: post #27

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The cost of switching is a high barrier for many people. Changing from Windows to Ubuntu requires you to find equivalents for all of the software you need. Changing from your browser -> Firefox = most websites will still work, no additional effort on anyone. Changing from Microsoft Office to OpenOffice forces you to ensure all the documents open correctly and others can open yours correctly. It's not always so black…

“Changing from your browser -> Firefox = most websites will still work, no additional effort on anyone.” Now. When Firefox v1.0 was released in 2004, 8 years ago, that was not so, and early adopters who were thinking about recommending Firefox had to consider two important issues: First, compatibility. Second, the fact that the idea that you would install a third-party program to browse the web seemed strange, even p…

This is precisely the reason why Linux hasn't stuck on me, even though I've tried multiple times to use it. Every time, on different systems, there was something off. Sometimes the sound card that wasn't properly supported, other times the video card (ATI at the time) had big issues with secondary monitors, other times it was my low-end, weird brand WiFi card. It's never "Just Worked" and, even though the exact same happened with Windows at one point or another, the fix is generally simple with Windows (locate the manufacturer, download the driver for your Windows, works with any decent age hardware), wheras it's harder with Linux (google it, find half a dozen possible solutions, download one driver which installs 30 dependencies and breaks your system, try another driver which completely prevents the OS from booting, give up and reinstall Windows).

And then, there's the Software & Games issues... but that's a story for another day.

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