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Earthquakes make gold veins in an instant (2013)

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Re: Earthquakes make gold veins in an instant (2013)

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Yep you need a neutron star or black hole collision I think to make the initial gold from more basic “elements” :-)

Or a particle accelerator, some bismuth, and low expectations of quantities.

I thought I remembered a method using radioactive mercury instead, but yeah, not really fun times.

Re: Earthquakes make gold veins in an instant (2013)

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Lots of reasons to not be a producer of metals. If you find any material in California good luck - its more than a 25 year process to open a new mine, including payoffs to various politicians and an endless environmental review process.

"its more than a 25 year process to open a new mine" For massive lode and pit operations for major corporations, sure. I own four agate mines and one manganese minein the Mojave. It costs not much at all if you're a small miner.

I'd love to hear more about the small-scale mine ownership experience.

Re: Earthquakes make gold veins in an instant (2013)

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Seems like a lot of work. What if I just make boron instead? Everyone likes boron.

its the name. boron sounds like a combination of boring and moron. who wants boron?

Nobody doesn't like molten boron! ;-)

Re: Earthquakes make gold veins in an instant (2013)

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Or a particle accelerator, some bismuth, and low expectations of quantities.

I thought I remembered a method using radioactive mercury instead, but yeah, not really fun times.

He literally made the Philosopher's Stone, although uneconomical https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_T._Seaborg

"""In 1980, he transmuted several thousand atoms of bismuth-209 into gold (197 Au) at the Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory. His experimental technique, using the lab's Bevalac particle accelerator, was able to remove protons and neutrons from the bismuth atoms by bombarding it with carbon and neon nuclei traveling near the speed of light.[47] Seaborg's technique would have been far too expensive to enable routine manufacturing of gold, but his work was close to the mythical Philosopher's Stone.[48][49] As gold has four fewer protons and (taking the only naturally occurring bulk isotopes of either) eight fewer neutrons than bismuth, a total of twelve nucleons have to be removed from the bismuth nucleus to produce gold using Seaborg's method."""

the building where plutonium was first synthesized still exists ont he berkeley campus although IIRC they had to clean it up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilman_Hall#Room_307

Re: Earthquakes make gold veins in an instant (2013)

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Then Japan should be a a major gold producer, but is not.

Lots of reasons to not be a producer of metals. If you find any material in California good luck - its more than a 25 year process to open a new mine, including payoffs to various politicians and an endless environmental review process.

> an endless environmental review process.

Considering what mining tends to do to the surrounding environment, I say good for California.

Re: Earthquakes make gold veins in an instant (2013)

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Then Japan should be a a major gold producer, but is not.

Lots of reasons to not be a producer of metals. If you find any material in California good luck - its more than a 25 year process to open a new mine, including payoffs to various politicians and an endless environmental review process.

Mining is actually one of the most privilleged land usages. The Mining Law of 1872 still governs and positions mining as the "highest" possible use of a land. This actually makes fighting the opening of a new mine one of the most challenging fights activists and indigenous people often undertake

Re: Earthquakes make gold veins in an instant (2013)

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We went all the way to magnitude –2,” Weatherley says — an earthquake so small, he adds, that it involves a slip of only about 130 micrometres along a mere 90 centimetres of the fault zone. “You still get a pressure drop of 50%,” he notes. Interesting. Is there a rough rule of thumb that translates magnitude into slip size and length?

Got curious about this too, there's some graphs of the relationships on page 992 and 993 of this paper https://www.resolutionmineeis.us/sites/default/files/referen...

Re: Earthquakes make gold veins in an instant (2013)

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Seems like a lot of work. What if I just make boron instead? Everyone likes boron.

its the name. boron sounds like a combination of boring and moron. who wants boron?

And yet they made a whole movie about it, with Bruce Willis, Milla Jovovich, and Gary Oldman.
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