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Having a game I'm into makes every day enjoyable

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Re: Having a game I'm into makes every day enjoyable

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For anyone currently looking for something that does this for you, may I suggest Advent of Code: https://adventofcode.com/ This is the first year I've really made time and space to enjoy it, and enjoy it I have.

Also - this article ends on such a weird note given the message that the rest of it delivers. The author has finally realized how valuable it is to have something that gets them going, regardless of whether or not it ends up being "useful", but then immediately stumbles over the fear of it not lasting and failing to achieve greatness in it and sharply concludes with that sentiment.

Perseverance through intermediate-ness into greatness is irrelevant to enjoyment. Sure, be great at your hobby if you're driven to be great, but if you're looking to maximize enjoyment, it's much better to focus on a) embracing intermediateness, and b) exposing yourself to new things so you can find the next hobby that will light you up.

Re: Having a game I'm into makes every day enjoyable

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I've started Anno 1800 yesterday. Lost the campaign twice so far. I love it. :-)

It looks gorgeous, even on my not-top-the-line-PC.

This will give me years of fun. After I get bored with the base game I will have a dozen DLCs/extensions to try.

This past year it was Civ 5.

Re: Having a game I'm into makes every day enjoyable

#23

consider how the same sentiment sounds stated in the inverse. even the most generous formulations, something like: "not every day is enjoyable when I don't have a game to be into," could pass for the opening sentence of a dystopian novel. I'm reminded mostly of schopenhauer's remark that reading is simply the replaying of another's thoughts, and video games, especially scripted RPGs, extend this notion of "replaying"…

I agree it’s somewhat dystopian when referring to video games, however I feel some types of games can offer genuine fulfillment. I used to play tennis and volleyball regularly, and although these are sports they could basically be considered physical forms of games. The routine of training and competing against others definitely added enjoyment to my life and was a welcome distraction from anything else that may have been bothering me at the time.

Mindless video games where you chase dopamine hits and programmed stimulus and have no interaction with others isn’t the same.

Re: Having a game I'm into makes every day enjoyable

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Thank you for the article. ~7 years ago, I realized I have a similar disposition - my best mental state is when I’m in a state of learning and being challenged. The struggle I’ve run into is when I look back and consider what “good” that thing I’ve been learning about has produced.

For instance, I too love video games and have found immense enjoyment in them for many, many years but if I add up all my play logs and realize I’ve spent something like 5-10% of my life playing video games, it begs the question if that time could have been better spent? Has that really helped anyone, myself included? Has it made the world a better place in any way?

Lately, I’ve uninstalled all games and am seeking hobbies that still challenge me but also can bring joy to others. To list a couple: Cooking - An art really but also quite a bit of science involved. Chiefly though, food brings people together and there is nothing quite like feeding people with your very own creation and hard work. DIY - DIY helps with my engineering itch, saves a lot of money for the family, and also can greatly benefit others who might otherwise not be able to afford something they really do need.

I have nothing against video games, I’ve played far more than most my age. I really just wonder when it comes to hobbies, is maximum satisfaction achieved when not only you satisfy your own needs but are also able to add to others’ lives? FWIW, this can be achieved in video games through friendships and community formed… I’m just not good at making that an important part of why I’d play a video game.

Re: Having a game I'm into makes every day enjoyable

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Mahjong ?

I tend to associate mahjong with gambling and smoke filled illegal parlors. The Asian counterpart of poker as it is played in western stories.

Probably a stereotype. Just as poker usually isn't played in saloons with revolvers on the table nowadays, but I wonder what kind of reputation it has, and if the money aspect is as prevalent as it is in poker.

Re: Having a game I'm into makes every day enjoyable

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The conclusion seems to contradict the thesis.

> The most enjoyable time is when you feel yourself growing, but the real test is whether you can persevere when you hit that wall or if you’ll lose interest and give up.

Why does it matter if you persevere or not as long as you had fun?

Re: Having a game I'm into makes every day enjoyable

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My 2015 PC started dying, requiring BIOS resets and other weirdness like suddenly not outputting basic VGA graphics.

So I finally upgraded to an AMD 7800X3D, nvidia 4070 12GB, 64GB DDR5-6400 RAM.

All to play Factorio! :D

Apart from a strange error where Linux will crash if I have 2 DIMMs in the motherboard, it's been a great upgrade. (I'm going to submit bug reports to Fedora, but I'm assuming some combo of the MSI B650 motherboard, CPU, and memory are contributing to the error. Memtest says the memory modules are OK)

Now I have a PC that can handle the modded-Factorio huge railway city block maps I like to play. Each block of space is surrounded by 4 lanes of railway, with interchanges. It's really nice to organize the refining and production into specific tasks, like "deliver lead ore, process it into lead oxide, combine that with carbon blocks to make lead ingots". Now the distribution method is via railway station so it's far more flexible than simple conveyor belt outputs. Loads of fun! And very complex too, but that's half the fun. Needing "blue science" which needs circuit boards, which need solder, which needs lead and tin ingots, etc etc. I can lose hours of time to this, moderated only by my back hurting and making me take breaks.

A nice bonus is that my new PC is capable of running smaller LLMs locally, so I can mess around with learning the new hotness technology. Plus new toys are always fun.

Re: Having a game I'm into makes every day enjoyable

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post #10

I believe this can be more generic, having something you're into makes every day enjoyable. I had that realization a couple of years ago. Happiness for me is doing less things I don't enjoy and more of the things I do enjoy. Gaming is nice because there is little effort to start. Just sit in front of a PC and play. Something like surfing requires more effort, getting changed, getting to a beach with waves, etc. I hat…

I think any therapist will tell you that it's best to have something to look forward to; probably small, near-term things as well as large, long-term goals. When you don't have anything to do, the future looks pretty grim. I've long given up on anything like finding some sort of meaning to all this, but I do try and find little enjoyable stuff to do. I think exercise is pretty key and applying the philosophy above of…

"The three grand essentials of happiness are: Something to do, someone to love, and something to hope for."

- Alexander Chalmers

Re: Having a game I'm into makes every day enjoyable

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> once they hit a certain wall, growth slows down drastically.

Deliberate practice addresses these plateaus. I think you need to constrict your focus, zoom in, change the scale so the slowing of progress doesn't feel slow. If you can accept that, it can be just as satisfying. A great coach/mentor can help here [but how can you evaluate them?] As the frontier of your knowledge expands, there's more of it.

funfact: Usain Bolt hit a plateau as a teenager, but got a new coach who addressed a congenital spine defect with specific strengthening exercises, and to train less (he was overtraining).

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