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Is Bach the greatest achiever of all time?

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Re: Is Bach the greatest achiever of all time?

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I feel like I have to channel my old math teacher. It was Euler. He also lived without electricity, and went blind too. And yet he figured out a huge amount of interesting stuff, roughly corresponding with high school math. Euler also moved across countries.

and without ChatGPT…

Re: Is Bach the greatest achiever of all time?

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> I would include the following metrics as relevant for that designation: > > 1. Quality of work.

It’s like Cowen can’t help himself at this point. The world would be better served if he spent more time reviewing ethnic restaurants than publishing thoughtfarts like this. I guess it’s a better use of Koch Brothers money than their usual pursuits, at least.

Re: Is Bach the greatest achiever of all time?

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> 9. Never experiencing true defeat or setback I don't think this is correct. Bach was seeking a position of court composer (like Handel) and even sent his 6 Brandenburg Concertos to Margrave of Brandenburg-Schwedt in 1721. He didn't get the position. Brandenburg Concertos are some of his best works and I can't imagine how much top-quality secular music he could have written if he got the position.

Also, why on earth would this metric be important? Failure is a fact of life; one needs to experience it many, many times on the road to grandmastery. I’m pretty sure Bach had. It makes more sense to cherish than deplore it.

Re: Is Bach the greatest achiever of all time?

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I'm not affiliated or anything but The Great Courses' "Bach and the High Baroque" [0] course is a great Series on Bach (Robert Greenbert's courses are great overall). 0: https://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/bach-and-the-high-ba...

Not ready to throw 300usd on audio. Is there any good podcast with the history of music?

You can get it on audible for 1 credit or free

Re: Is Bach the greatest achiever of all time?

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I feel like I have to channel my old math teacher. It was Euler. He also lived without electricity, and went blind too. And yet he figured out a huge amount of interesting stuff, roughly corresponding with high school math. Euler also moved across countries.

Math-wise Euler was more about establishing standard approaches than anything else. In addition to that, his contributions to graph theory and topology were substantial if not defining.

His contributions in physics were truly groundbreaking, a lot of traditional theoretical mechanics is coming from him mostly.

And not even all of his works in Latin were translated yet...

Re: Is Bach the greatest achiever of all time?

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I'm not affiliated or anything but The Great Courses' "Bach and the High Baroque" [0] course is a great Series on Bach (Robert Greenbert's courses are great overall). 0: https://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/bach-and-the-high-ba...

Seconded, I'm not particularly a fan of classical music but all of his lectures are really excellent

Re: Is Bach the greatest achiever of all time?

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History is written by the victors. The greatest achiever of which work reached us, by the criteria that we pick, of the things we know today, and the "we" changes from culture to culture.

Without dismissing Bach's work (or the others named in the discussion, I would had picked Leonardo with my shallow default knowledge on the topic) we should acknowledge how biased is what we know. Not just because how we select what we should focus on, but how partial is the information that managed to reach us today.

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