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GM halts sales of its new Chevy Blazer EV amid reports of software issues

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Re: GM halts sales of its new Chevy Blazer EV amid reports of software issues

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Post by Dalewyn »

jrsj wrote: post #49

What is even the point of the Blazer EV if it is essentially the same vehicle at the Cadillac Lyriq at essentially the same price? When they announced this thing they said it would be $45k, instead its almost $60k just like the Lyriq. Not sure if there's a difference in quality of materials, sound deadening, etc. It is technically a couple thousand cheaper, but it's also made in Mexico with non-union labor instead of…

>What is even the point of the Blazer EV

State (eg: California) mandates that a certain percentage of cars sold be EVs. That naturally means a certain percentage of cars manufactured for subsequent sale have to be EVs to accomplish the sale percentage mandate.

You can't make sure 30% (note: arbitrary number for sake of conversation) of your car sales are EVs unless at least 30% of the cars you manufacture for selling are EVs.

Re: GM halts sales of its new Chevy Blazer EV amid reports of software issues

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Post by justrealist »

NotSammyHagar wrote: post #29
khzw8yyy wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My classmate back from Uni is a pretty high up manager working on GM infotainment (as is his dad). He (the classmate) failed and had to retake CS101 three times.

That is embarrassing but it doesn't necessarily mean anything. What matters is did they end up a competent software engineer.

I understand that all heuristics are imperfect but P(good engineer | failed cs 101 multiple times) is so close to 0 it is a rounding error.

Re: GM halts sales of its new Chevy Blazer EV amid reports of software issues

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Post by justrealist »

za3faran wrote: post #48
beau_g wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Volkswagen recently built a software org up to 6000 people (Cariad) and recently announced they are laying of 2000 of them. If they were structured anything like German suppliers I've dealt with, there was probably a 12 person team in charge of opening curly braces, 15 in charge of closing curly braces, but only a 5 person team responsible for semicolons so the timeline for each line of code was about 2 years. Great…

I'm not sure that the german automakers are known for reliability :)

They are, and they have the emissions tests to prove it.

Re: GM halts sales of its new Chevy Blazer EV amid reports of software issues

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Post by lukevp »

Dalewyn wrote: post #51
jrsj wrote: post #49

What is even the point of the Blazer EV if it is essentially the same vehicle at the Cadillac Lyriq at essentially the same price? When they announced this thing they said it would be $45k, instead its almost $60k just like the Lyriq. Not sure if there's a difference in quality of materials, sound deadening, etc. It is technically a couple thousand cheaper, but it's also made in Mexico with non-union labor instead of…

>What is even the point of the Blazer EV State (eg: California) mandates that a certain percentage of cars sold be EVs. That naturally means a certain percentage of cars manufactured for subsequent sale have to be EVs to accomplish the sale percentage mandate. You can't make sure 30% (note: arbitrary number for sake of conversation) of your car sales are EVs unless at least 30% of the cars you manufacture for selling…

Isn’t “sold” the key point though? Why make a worse car for marginally less instead of making more of the good cars that are, by comparison, a much better deal? They would be easier to sell…

Re: GM halts sales of its new Chevy Blazer EV amid reports of software issues

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Post by whyenot »

konschubert wrote: post #6

It’s fascinating to see how the legacy automakers are completely failing at this. Money can’t buy culture.

I don’t think Ford, Volvo, Porsche, Nissan, BMW, Mercedes, even VW are “completely” failing. Stellantis, Mazda, and Subaru, yes. Toyota, yes and no — they didn’t really try with the BZ4X, but their plug-in hybrids sell as fast as they claim they can make them.

Re: GM halts sales of its new Chevy Blazer EV amid reports of software issues

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Post by xeromal »

za3faran wrote: post #48
beau_g wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Volkswagen recently built a software org up to 6000 people (Cariad) and recently announced they are laying of 2000 of them. If they were structured anything like German suppliers I've dealt with, there was probably a 12 person team in charge of opening curly braces, 15 in charge of closing curly braces, but only a 5 person team responsible for semicolons so the timeline for each line of code was about 2 years. Great…

I'm not sure that the german automakers are known for reliability :)

I'm a Lexus/Toyota stan but a lot of what makes a german car unrealiable is deferred maintenance. Lexus and Toyota build cars so you can treat them like shit and they'll still run and Germans build cars that are meant to be maintained then they will run well.

They're really two different approaches to car design. Why they do it this way really comes down to national culture.

Re: GM halts sales of its new Chevy Blazer EV amid reports of software issues

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Post by MobileVet »

technofiend wrote: post #39

For whatever reason GM also ended sale of their popular Chevy Bolt platform. It wasn't an amazing car and I'm sure suffered from its own faults as well, but at least from reading reports about the car nothing like what the Ultim-based vehicles are seeing now! Also it was cheaper than the Blazer, so I'm sure less profitable for GM but that made it popular to consumers. Not to mention it still qualified for an EV tax c…

Clearly personal preference… but I would say the Bolt is a very strong commuter option. I originally thought I would buy an Kia EV6, then a Genesis GV60. In the end I bought a Bolt and I absolutely love it.

It is 85% of the car I wanted for 40% of the price of the others. It isn’t plush, but it has every modern safety system and everything is where you expect it (vs the toys / Tesla)

Highly recommend it for an around town / commuter car.

Re: GM halts sales of its new Chevy Blazer EV amid reports of software issues

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Post by panick21_ »

valine wrote: post #7

GM is not equipped to build software, and that’s okay. What’s not okay is that GM lacks the basic self awareness to recognize their own limitations. The schadenfreude is strong with this one.

> GM is not equipped to build software, and that’s okay.

No it isn't, the idea that you can be a car company of the future without being able to develop software is crazy. The trend we see from Tesla and China is the exact opposite direction.

It goes much deeper just the entertainment system.

Re: GM halts sales of its new Chevy Blazer EV amid reports of software issues

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Post by renewiltord »

cduzz wrote: post #10
morkalork wrote: post #9

Volt, Bolt, Blazer? The names for GM'S EV line are like some thing out the "Dodgeball" movie!

And porsche's "1970s east berlin exotic dancer" names are better?

Imagine an exotic dancer comes up to you and says, “Baby, my name is Boxster. What’s yours?”
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