Mercedes gets approval for turquoise automated driving lights

Post by lopis » Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 9:18 PM UTC

48r9ridjjd wrote: post #157

lopis wrote: post #131

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The alternative is a light in a predictable position or with a standard shape. I really hate that EVs are trying to be all modern about light systems redesigns. Specially in the US, car manufacturers are being very creative with their new designs in ways that are not even legal in Europe. I hope international standards for human-friendly lights can be agreed upon soon.

The point of the light is primarily for specific people like law enforcement to be able to identify that the vehicle has self-driving mode engaged so that they don't pull the operator over erroneously. Is it actually an issue if Joe Colorblind can't tell that the person he's passing has automated driving enabled?

Post by LASR » Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 9:24 PM UTC

vic-traill wrote: post #19

takumo wrote: post #8

I think this idea makes some sense, in a mixed-traffic world where some vehicles are autonomous and others are not, some indication that a vehicle is driving autonomously is useful information to everyone around them. Additional situational information, provided it is not overly intrusive or overwhelming is generally beneficial. As for the colour, clearly Mercedes requested Turquoise for brand reasons. I wonder if th…

> some indication that a vehicle is driving autonomously is useful information to everyone around them I'm genuinely curious - what are you thinking when you say this? I don't know what I'd do with that information. It shouldn't make me drive differently - e.g. not be aggressive to see if I can invoke reaction(s) in the autonomous system, and I should already be driving w/ due care.

Post by thelastgallon » Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 9:53 PM UTC

flutas wrote: post #52

infecto wrote: post #38

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It’s not too surprising given the very specific conditions Mercedes runs in.

Yeah Currently - Only in CA and NV - Only below 40mph - Only on specifically mapped freeways ("only available on freeways that have been mapped by Mercedes") - There MUST be a vehicle in front of your car - "reasonable road conditions with readable markings and lines" - "clear weather" - Daytime only ("Drive Pilot can’t be used at night or in the rain, and the headlights and wipers must be set to auto for it to work.…

Post by manquer » Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 11:26 PM UTC

LASR wrote: post #163

48r9ridjjd wrote: post #157

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The point of the light is primarily for specific people like law enforcement to be able to identify that the vehicle has self-driving mode engaged so that they don't pull the operator over erroneously. Is it actually an issue if Joe Colorblind can't tell that the person he's passing has automated driving enabled?

Cops can’t be colorblind? I don’t know if they have to do a test or something.

Post by manquer » Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 11:35 PM UTC

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I know almost nothing about cars and so assumed LiDAR sensors are just prohibitively expensive for Tesla to install in every car. But then years later I learned that every modern iPhone has a LiDAR camera. Still don't know how to think about this - how is it possible for a phone to have LiDAR (barely utilized) but it's too expensive to have them in such a critical setup as an autonomous vehicle.

> how is it possible for a phone to have LiDAR Just like you can have a 50MP camera sensor in the phone: it works? Sure. Is it sufficient to capture the Moon (heh) or something 50-100 meters from you? Not at the quality and performance of professional equipment. Sure, you can have a matrix of iPhone LIDARs but whould they works at sufficient speed, accuracy, at +40C, at -35?