How to cope with the Gmail redesign • Hacker News Board

Re: How to cope with the Gmail redesign

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Post by twelvechairs » Sun, Apr 22, 2012, 1:05 PM UTC

EvilTerran wrote: post #111

twelvechairs wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Thats not at all what I said.

Then what did you say? andrewfelix was prompting you to elaborate. Just replying "that's not what I said" is completely unproductive - this is meant to be a conversation, not a game of twenty questions. We shouldn't have to guess at your meaning.

Sorry. I thought about this, but it seemed obvious to me. Maybe it isn't. I'll give it a try.

Of course past performance of a product is a factor worth considering in determining the future success of someone in any field. However if you really want to excel at this field, past performance is not likely to be the _primary_ factor (though it could be a smaller factor) in how you 'validate' future worth.

For instance, I can easily measure the past performance of stocks on the stock exchange. However if I really want to succeed in trading shares, 'have the stocks of foobar gone up in the past' is not likely to be the primary way I validate whether foobar is worth investing in.

Hope that helps you :) I didn't mean to sound as indignant as perhaps I did.

Re: How to cope with the Gmail redesign

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Apr 22, 2012, 1:53 PM UTC

Duff wrote: post #67

twelvechairs wrote: post #34

Its a constant wonder how Google and other large companies can't actually realise that their design departments are not doing a great job. You'd think that Apple's successes might actually make them realise that great interfaces (especially if they can outdo the competition) are hugely valuable. Some things about the new design are defensible, however others are definitely not. My particular pet hate is that all the…

Apple makes plenty of UI nightmares. Examples include Snow Leopard firewall configuration dialog, the leather versions of iCal/Contacts, the finder, etc.

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Re: How to cope with the Gmail redesign

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel » Sun, Apr 22, 2012, 1:54 PM UTC

eternalban wrote: post #78

chintan wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for this gem! Did they forgot to change this view or G-Plusification will kill this as well?

It's for "slow connection[s]". It will be here for a while.

And older browsers. Try opening GMail in IE7.

Re: How to cope with the Gmail redesign

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel » Sun, Apr 22, 2012, 1:56 PM UTC

xtacy wrote: post #65

I use the following changes to the style sheet for some more colour contrast: /* Increase contrast on some arrows */ .T-I-ax7.T-I-JE .T-I-J3 { opacity: 0.1 !important; } /* Make new chat highlight red instead of blue */ .Hz .k, .Hz .n, .Hz .l { background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(192, 0, 0) !important; }

oh god, obfuscated CSS...

Re: How to cope with the Gmail redesign

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Post by Karunamon » Sun, Apr 22, 2012, 2:12 PM UTC

darklajid wrote: post #116

nopassrecover wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Outlook has conversation view as well, and Microsoft Lync (formerly Office Communicator) integrates the rest of the feature set (yes you're vendor-locked, but you are with GMail too). In my opinion GMail executes better on most of these features, but they're not the only ones to offer them.

Not a fan, but Lync even allows XMPP access (if so configured), so all your GTalk buddies can message you from GMail (at least that should work - didn't try).

I wasn't aware of that.. will have to check it out! Thanks!

Re: How to cope with the Gmail redesign

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Post by joelthelion » Sun, Apr 22, 2012, 2:37 PM UTC

Using a web-service and raging when it gets redesigned or closed is pretty stupid. People who don't like when other people decide for them should use real email clients with a standard protocol such as IMAP.

Re: How to cope with the Gmail redesign

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Post by maw » Sun, Apr 22, 2012, 2:37 PM UTC

abentspoon wrote: post #66

You can actually still use the old interface for a little while longer, even if you've been forced over to the redesign. http://qwerjk.com/revert-gmail

Failed the actually does something test. A real pity.

Re: How to cope with the Gmail redesign

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Post by Rage » Sun, Apr 22, 2012, 2:42 PM UTC

I totally disagree, more blank space make it easier to read, the BIG problem of the redesign are icons that doesn't clearly mean what they do.

But hey, it's nice that you can revert a bit.

(but i must be satan, i also like FB timeline)

Re: How to cope with the Gmail redesign

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Post by Rage » Sun, Apr 22, 2012, 2:44 PM UTC

joelthelion wrote: post #126

Using a web-service and raging when it gets redesigned or closed is pretty stupid. People who don't like when other people decide for them should use real email clients with a standard protocol such as IMAP.

bot sure if i follow you here, gmail uses IMAP, i never read my mails on the website, always in Mail (or sparrow, on osx)

Re: How to cope with the Gmail redesign

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Post by otibom » Sun, Apr 22, 2012, 2:47 PM UTC

joelthelion wrote: post #126

Using a web-service and raging when it gets redesigned or closed is pretty stupid. People who don't like when other people decide for them should use real email clients with a standard protocol such as IMAP.

Do you know an email client that handles conversations the way gmail does ?