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You're describing life. This is diplomacy, while we can argue about its effectiveness I'm certain we can agree that it's still better than China, Russia and or Iran. It's just a matter of perspective - the west is the lesser evil here
So I guess the Houthis are part of life, no?
Just remember that gunpowder is part of life too
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> If the US and others weren't actively arming the Saudis then a regional solution might be easier to find It’s a system problem that America didn’t start. Pulling the plug on Riyadh and Jerusalem would likely lead to their collapse, plunging the region into decades of anarchy.
That or Saudi Arabia & Israel would have to play nice with the rest of the region. Amusing since most of the arms are from US manufacturers.
Iran and Russia are pumping massive quantities of armament into the region.
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> holocaust was the result of our involvement. And hitlers rise was in large part due to our involvement in WW1. Sorry buddy, you’ve gone off the deep end. Germany wasn’t winning WWI, with or without America. What our involvement did was shorten the war’s duration and lighten the terms of the Treaty of Versailles a tad. As for America being responsible for the Holocaust, you’re wrong. I know where you’re getting this…
Germany may not have been winning, but without us they were more even and may have found better terms. Who knows
Historians. The Allies were vengeful at the end of the War, and growing more vengeful by the day. America pushed to lighten the terms where it could. Without its involvement, and at the end of a longer, more destructive war, Germany would have found itself with much worse terms.
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> Both the Clara and Swan were supposedly refusing to answer hails Right, which is a touch broader than “targeting Israeli ships.” (It’s also convenient retcon. Where would I go next…paperwork wasn’t promptly provided? Paperwork appeared forged? We thought they were lying?)
They said they would attack anyone they thought was headed to an Israeli port. What's the greater leap, them assuming that silence was unacceptable and therefore likely headed to Israel, or that they're taking random, unpredictable pot shots and their actual agenda isn't related to Israel at all?
The point is their behaviour isn’t predictable. Which means you can’t make a deal. (To say nothing of there being nobody to negotiate with, nor enforce the terms of a deal ex post facto.)
Put another way, nobody has a monopoly on violence on the Yemeni coast. Before we start discussing legalistic concepts like a treaty, someone needs to seize that monopoly.
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> Familial and Clan traditons are still a thing. I think that most W.E.I.R.D. (Western) people don't realize how much the rest of the world (for better or worse) still runs on kin-based rules. Good book going over the strangeness of the 'Western' world in many respects: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_WEIRDest_People_in_the_Wor... * https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/10/joseph-... * https://archive…
I'd disagree that a relativist argument like Henrich's would hold in this case. Clans as a societal unit was a thing in the West as well. For example, it was a major reason for the Jacobite Rebellion in Scotland in 1745, the Irish independence movement was organized thanks to the clan system in the 19th and early 20th century, etc. Clans as a societal unit disappeared in Western Europe when the Nuclear Family became…
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> Familial and Clan traditons are still a thing. I think that most W.E.I.R.D. (Western) people don't realize how much the rest of the world (for better or worse) still runs on kin-based rules. Good book going over the strangeness of the 'Western' world in many respects: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_WEIRDest_People_in_the_Wor... * https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/10/joseph-... * https://archive…
I'd disagree that a relativist argument like Henrich's would hold in this case. Clans as a societal unit was a thing in the West as well. For example, it was a major reason for the Jacobite Rebellion in Scotland in 1745, the Irish independence movement was organized thanks to the clan system in the 19th and early 20th century, etc. Clans as a societal unit disappeared in Western Europe when the Nuclear Family became…
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Out of the blue? Religious zealots from all over the world flying in to join a militia to conduct mass killings of men, women and children on behalf of a fascist zionist "religious" ethnostate. Sounds like it's been going on for about 76 years.
It sounds like you're supporting terrible actions of awful bad terrible people, which is just sad. Imagine jewish terrorists massacring towns in Poland because of the Holocaust
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Isn’t one of the owners of the ship’s company an Israeli Billionaire?
You're chucking around the unsourced assertion, you tell me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Ludwig_Mowinckels_Rederi doesn't say anything along those lines.
Nah it’s a different story
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/12/12/tanker-attacke...
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That or Saudi Arabia & Israel would have to play nice with the rest of the region. Amusing since most of the arms are from US manufacturers.
> most of the arms are from US manufacturer Iran and Russia are pumping massive quantities of armament into the region.